I believe humanity will rue the day we began to fool around in God’s specific domain. Man is a species made in God’s image, but “the secret things belong to the LORD our god. . .” We mess with cloning ourselves at our own physical and spiritual peril, I fear.
I agree with Professor Caplan. I would draw the bright line at Stemagen’s gate. Cloning of humans should carry severe criminal penalties. Reporter Robert Bazell noted that human cloning isn’t needed for stem cell research. I don’t care for human cloning to be available as “an alternative”, any more than I care for the horrific “research” performed by the Nazis on innocent lives at Buchenwald and the other death camps (for example, Dr Mengele’s “work” on trying to change eye color).
This ghastly. May God forgive us if we permit this to continue!
Imagine for a moment that we could clone human beings without negative physical or emotional side effects related to the process, and assume that perfecting this process did not involve any intermediate steps that were “monstrous”. And assume for a moment that these clones were meant to live normal lives, not made for “parts” or scientific research. What would the Christian response be to these cloned humans? I suspect, barring the Lord’s return in say the next 20 years (and I suspect I am quite generous here), that we will indeed have to deal with cloned humans.
I also wonder what part of the created earth God has limited man’s dominion over (Gen 1:26). Other than the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it looks to me like its all under our dominion (and His providential rule of course – and by the way, we could eat that forbidden fruit too). So, is cloning of any kind a sinful use of that God given vocation?
I really wonder some times. I do believe that sinful mankind given the chance perverts all that God calls good. And making cloned anything, especially humans, may be just such a perversion. But creating a so called human blastocyst and then destroying it may also be a perversion.
And simply saying we should not do it, and God is ticked if we do is not going to change the reality that it is happening. After all, we saw it today on “TV”.
No. 5 – I agree. Aside from the theological /ontological questions, such as “Would the clone be ensouled?”, the whole idea of living with clones in everyday life just seems creepy.
Not that there aren’t a host of serious ethical questions surrounding human cloning, because there obviously are, but — what possible reason would there be for thinking that a cloned person wouldn’t be “ensouled”? And if you find the idea of clones “creepy,” remember that there are a small number of naturally-occuring human clones — we call them “identical twins.”
Myself, I would be a lot more concerned about questions such as “For what purpose are clones being created?”
#12 writes: “Myself, I would be a lot more concerned about questions such as “For what purpose are clones being created?â€
What is stated is that such cloning is a step toward “curing human disease”. In other words…. we’ll create life, then destroy that life so that we can save life…. or at least make someone’s quality of life better. Those ‘someones’, we must point out, will be the excessively wealthy. That’s who is privately funding this macabre research to begin with. Given the fact that millions and millions of people are without basic healthcare at all, we must ask…whose diseased bodies will benefit from such ‘cures’ if we ever find them? It won’t be the poor. This isn’t for the betterment of human kind… this whole thing is for the betterment of the affluent. It is an offense that cries to heaven. Lord, have mercy.
[blockquote] Watch it all. [/blockquote] Suggestion respectfully declined.
I believe humanity will rue the day we began to fool around in God’s specific domain. Man is a species made in God’s image, but “the secret things belong to the LORD our god. . .” We mess with cloning ourselves at our own physical and spiritual peril, I fear.
#1- I won’t watch it either. I hate re-runs.
I agree with Professor Caplan. I would draw the bright line at Stemagen’s gate. Cloning of humans should carry severe criminal penalties. Reporter Robert Bazell noted that human cloning isn’t needed for stem cell research. I don’t care for human cloning to be available as “an alternative”, any more than I care for the horrific “research” performed by the Nazis on innocent lives at Buchenwald and the other death camps (for example, Dr Mengele’s “work” on trying to change eye color).
This ghastly. May God forgive us if we permit this to continue!
Imagine for a moment that we could clone human beings without negative physical or emotional side effects related to the process, and assume that perfecting this process did not involve any intermediate steps that were “monstrous”. And assume for a moment that these clones were meant to live normal lives, not made for “parts” or scientific research. What would the Christian response be to these cloned humans? I suspect, barring the Lord’s return in say the next 20 years (and I suspect I am quite generous here), that we will indeed have to deal with cloned humans.
I also wonder what part of the created earth God has limited man’s dominion over (Gen 1:26). Other than the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, it looks to me like its all under our dominion (and His providential rule of course – and by the way, we could eat that forbidden fruit too). So, is cloning of any kind a sinful use of that God given vocation?
I really wonder some times. I do believe that sinful mankind given the chance perverts all that God calls good. And making cloned anything, especially humans, may be just such a perversion. But creating a so called human blastocyst and then destroying it may also be a perversion.
And simply saying we should not do it, and God is ticked if we do is not going to change the reality that it is happening. After all, we saw it today on “TV”.
All of this rot is more or less the spiral downward to the end, as promised in the Bible.
Lord, have mercy.
All the nightmares of my youth like ‘The Fly’ are coming true.
Contact your representative:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/mailapp/
Does anyone know how the various presidential candidates have reacted to this development?
May the Lord have mercy on our souls!
No. 5 – I agree. Aside from the theological /ontological questions, such as “Would the clone be ensouled?”, the whole idea of living with clones in everyday life just seems creepy.
#11:
Not that there aren’t a host of serious ethical questions surrounding human cloning, because there obviously are, but — what possible reason would there be for thinking that a cloned person wouldn’t be “ensouled”? And if you find the idea of clones “creepy,” remember that there are a small number of naturally-occuring human clones — we call them “identical twins.”
Myself, I would be a lot more concerned about questions such as “For what purpose are clones being created?”
#12 writes: “Myself, I would be a lot more concerned about questions such as “For what purpose are clones being created?â€
What is stated is that such cloning is a step toward “curing human disease”. In other words…. we’ll create life, then destroy that life so that we can save life…. or at least make someone’s quality of life better. Those ‘someones’, we must point out, will be the excessively wealthy. That’s who is privately funding this macabre research to begin with. Given the fact that millions and millions of people are without basic healthcare at all, we must ask…whose diseased bodies will benefit from such ‘cures’ if we ever find them? It won’t be the poor. This isn’t for the betterment of human kind… this whole thing is for the betterment of the affluent. It is an offense that cries to heaven. Lord, have mercy.