{"id":10180,"date":"2008-12-15T19:30:30","date_gmt":"2008-12-15T19:30:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/site\/2017\/2\/1985\/dan_martins_church_property_disputes_common_sense\/"},"modified":"2008-12-15T19:30:30","modified_gmt":"2008-12-15T19:30:30","slug":"dan_martins_church_property_disputes_common_sense","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=10180","title":{"rendered":"Dan Martins: Church Property Disputes &#038; Common Sense"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\n&#8230;the repeated mantra of &#8220;fiduciary responsibility&#8221; wears a little thin. One must turn to other factors to make a prudent and sensible decision. If a majority of the present active congregation is in favor of leaving, but a significant minority is in favor of staying, the latter group should certainly not be turned out into the street&#8211;or the VFW hall. IMHO, too little imagination and charity have been exhibited in such situations; the winner-take-all mentality has been destructive. (The Colorado Springs situation seems a case-in-point here.)<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, when a congregation is a relatively recent plant and the facilities have been paid for by parishioners who are more or less the present congregation, and the diocese has made no investment beyond the brand name, and there is an overwhelming vote in favor of leaving, it strikes me as beyond inane to take those folks to court. Justice is just a matter of common sense for those with open eyes.<\/p>\n<p>Then there are the &#8220;bite my nose to spite my face&#8221; cases where any victory on the part of TEC is pyrrhic because they&#8217;re left with a church and a steeple but when they open the doors there are no people. Just heating and lawn care bills&#8211;and in many cases, a mortgage. Meanwhile, the people that could be worshiping and serving there are&#8230;you guessed it&#8230;celebrating the Eucharist in the VFW hall on Sunday mornings. That&#8217;s just idiotic. My former parish is in one of the four departed dioceses. Between my departure and my successor&#8217;s arrival they eradicated the word &#8220;Episcopal&#8221; anywhere it was found and replaced it with &#8220;Anglican.&#8221; Sooner or later, Mr Beers will get around to suing them. If he wins, he&#8217;ll have a very handsome set of buildings dating back to the late 19th century and which are a collective black hole for maintenance dollars. I hope he enjoys watching them fall apart, because my guess is that even the residents of the columbarium will have relocated by then.<\/p>\n<p>This is a complicated mess. It requires a complicated cleanup. Nostrums about thievery are not helpful.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/cariocaconfessions.blogspot.com\/2008\/12\/church-property-disputes-common-sense.html\">Read it all<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8230;the repeated mantra of &#8220;fiduciary responsibility&#8221; wears a little thin. One must turn to other factors to make a prudent and sensible decision. If a majority of the present active congregation is in favor of leaving, but a significant minority<span class=\"ellipsis\">&hellip;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=10180\">Read more &#8250;<\/a><\/div>\n<p><!-- end of .read-more --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":794,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36,39,66,114,373,376,658],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10180","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anglican-episcopal","category-culture-watch","category-episcopal-church-tec","category-law-legal-issues","category-presiding-bishop","category-tec-conflicts","category-tec-conflicts-san-joaquin"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10180","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/794"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10180"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10180\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10180"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10180"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10180"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}