JW: I come from a family of both parents being alcoholic and my mother stopped drinking half a century ago and never went back. My father died of it. What happens if vendors who struggled with a similar thing go back on the booze or the drugs?<\/p>\n
LW: For me, personally, I understand if people slip up because I\u2019ve learned addiction is not so black and white as I thought it was. I\u2019ve been quite lucky in life. I did a lot of my silly stuff when I was younger and I haven\u2019t really got any addictions, except maybe to chicken. I don\u2019t mind if my vendors fall, it\u2019s about getting back on the horse. That is what I try and teach them. As a guy who has failed quite a lot in life, I teach people to get off your high horse in life and get yourself a pony \u2013 when you fall off it doesn\u2019t hurt as much<\/strong>.<\/p>\n JW: I couldn\u2019t agree more, I think that\u2019s really good. I shall use that!<\/p>\n LW: I\u2019ll be honest, you doing this is really going to help me get my voice out there. We really need to change the way we think as a society. <\/p>\n JW: We need to change the way we think, we really do.<\/p>\n LW: We\u2019ve spoken about this and it\u2019s in your book [Reimagining Britain]. We don\u2019t want to go back to normal because normal didn\u2019t work, did it? We want to have a better life now and we\u2019ve got a chance of starting something.<\/p>\n Read it all<\/a>.<\/p>\n Big Issue vendor Lee Welham struck up a friendship with Archbishop of Canterbury @JustinWelby<\/a> \u2013 and hatched a plan to get him to don a tabard, sell the magazine and sit down for a wide-ranging chat. https:\/\/t.co\/f1XpbmU6uv<\/a><\/p>\n — The Big Issue (@BigIssue) June 21, 2021<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n \n