{"id":12830,"date":"2009-05-16T19:00:35","date_gmt":"2009-05-16T19:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/site\/2017\/2\/1985\/karen_b_runs_some_numbers_on_the_northern_michigan_episcopal_consents_tally\/"},"modified":"2009-05-16T19:00:35","modified_gmt":"2009-05-16T19:00:35","slug":"karen_b_runs_some_numbers_on_the_northern_michigan_episcopal_consents_tally","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=12830","title":{"rendered":"Karen B. Runs Some Numbers on the Northern Michigan Episcopal Consents Tally"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.standfirminfaith.com\/index.php\/site\/article\/22575\/#364156\">From here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I\u2019ve been doing some number crunching on these votes compared with past votes (i.e. consents &#8230;[re:Gene Robinson] and Mark Lawrence and some other votes from General Convention 2003).<\/p>\n<p>Theoretically, the vote totals could still be close.  We\u2019ve heard from more of the \u201cconservative\u201d\u009d (expected NO voting) bishops and dioceses &#8211; about 60% of each, as compared with only about 38% of the \u201cliberal\u201d\u009d (expected YES voting) bishops and dioceses.<\/p>\n<p>So\u201d\u00a6 don\u2019t be surprised if the YES totals climb quite a bit while the NO totals stay fairly stable for awhile.<\/p>\n<p>There are at least 35 liberal bishops yet to be heard from.  Theoretically, if they all voted Yes (very doubtful at this point) Forrester could have a total 49 Yes votes among bishops if past voting patterns held.  However, the liberal bishops would now have to ALL vote YES for that to happen.  So far only about 62% of the \u201cliberal\u201d\u009d bishops who have voted have voted YES.  Among the \u201cconservative bishops\u201d\u009d 97% have voted NO as expected.<br \/>It is a similar story among Standing Committees.  We still have yet to hear from 60% of the \u201cliberal\u201d\u009d dioceses.  Theoretically, if they all voted YES, Forrester could get 53 YES votes and 58 NO votes.  Consent would be denied.  I don\u2019t see how Forrester can pull off consent among the Standing Committees unless some current NO votes are switched.  Forrester has lost the votes of 12 \u201cliberal\u201d\u009d dioceses whom we would have expected to vote YES.  i.e. only 54% of the liberal dioceses are voting YES, while 97% of the conservative dioceses are voting NO.<\/p>\n<p>For those who are curious, the \u201cSwing\u201d\u009d vote on the conservative side in both the bishop and the standing committee column is San Joaquin.  So, it is not even really a \u201cswing\u201d\u009d since all the past voting record is for the Anglican Diocese under Bishop Schofield, now part of ACNA, whereas the YES votes are by +Lamb and the new Standing Committee.  There have been no other \u201cdefections\u201d\u009d among conservative bishops or dioceses.<\/p>\n<p>Hope this data is of interest, if people want more details, let me know, though I\u2019ll likely now be offline until Sunday.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>From here: I\u2019ve been doing some number crunching on these votes compared with past votes (i.e. consents &#8230;[re:Gene Robinson] and Mark Lawrence and some other votes from General Convention 2003). Theoretically, the vote totals could still be close. We\u2019ve heard<span class=\"ellipsis\">&hellip;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=12830\">Read more &#8250;<\/a><\/div>\n<p><!-- end of .read-more --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":794,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36,66,372,376,640,34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-12830","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anglican-episcopal","category-episcopal-church-tec","category-tec-bishops","category-tec-conflicts","category-tec-conflicts-northern-michigan","category-theology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12830","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/794"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=12830"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/12830\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=12830"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=12830"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=12830"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}