{"id":141546,"date":"2025-12-01T07:56:00","date_gmt":"2025-12-01T12:56:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=141546"},"modified":"2025-12-01T17:53:23","modified_gmt":"2025-12-01T22:53:23","slug":"pd-liquid-selves-empty-selves-a-qa-with-angela-franks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=141546","title":{"rendered":"(PD) Liquid Selves, Empty Selves: A Q&amp;A with Angela Franks"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><em>In this month\u2019s Q&amp;A, contributing editor Serena Sigillito interviews Dr. Angela Franks about her new book,&nbsp;<\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/undpress.nd.edu\/9780268209681\/body-and-identity\/\">Body and Identity: A History of the Empty Self.<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Serena Sigillito<\/strong>: I\u2019ve just finished reading your fascinating new book. Can you give&nbsp;<em>PD&nbsp;<\/em>readers a brief description of the argument you make there?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Angela Franks<\/strong>: Sure. I argue that our concern with the body is usually a smokescreen for deeper questions about identity. I try to show historically why and how identity became a problem for us\u2014why our culture is going through a systemic identity crisis. I try to show that this is not simply a new development, but it has its roots in phenomena that go back centuries, and even millennia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>SS<\/strong>: You\u2019ve mentioned elsewhere that you were inspired, in part, to write this book by Carl Trueman\u2019s&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/3XpvbI9\"><em>The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em>&nbsp;I found that a really helpful and thought-provoking comparison. My sense is that your book is more unabashedly academic than Carl\u2019s. Your book seems like it\u2019s aimed at the kind of people who write for places like&nbsp;<em>Public Discourse,&nbsp;<\/em>who can then draw on your scholarly work and translate it into a more accessible register and help popularize the ideas you articulate. Does that seem right to you?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>AF<\/strong>: Yes, I think that\u2019s accurate. I had already been working on my book when Carl\u2019s came out. We got to know each other pretty soon after that, and\u2014as I told him\u2014I was very relieved that his book was not making mine superfluous! I think Carl\u2019s book is primarily a work of translation, whereas mine is a more academic synthesis. One of the books that was really helpful to me was Charles Taylor\u2019s&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/4o31Jmo\"><em>Sources of the Self<\/em><\/a>, as well as&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/bit.ly\/47XKoFr\"><em>A Secular Age<\/em><\/a><em>.&nbsp;<\/em>Those books are similar to what I\u2019m trying to do\u2014a work that\u2019s lengthier, with an abundant use of footnotes, that really gets into texts at a deeper level. The hope is that it shifts the scholarly discussion around identity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thepublicdiscourse.com\/2025\/11\/99578\/\">Read it all<\/a>.<\/p><blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">A great interview with <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/theologianmom?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@theologianmom<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PublicDiscourse?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@PublicDiscourse<\/a> on her fine book on \u201cthe empty self.\u201d With <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/SerenaSigillito?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">@SerenaSigillito<\/a>. <br><br>It wasn\u2019t only secularism that \u201cliquified\u201d the body and emptied the self. Christianity played a large role too. What do we do with that?<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/y6RwYWeaqb\">https:\/\/t.co\/y6RwYWeaqb<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Rachel Lu (@rclu) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/rclu\/status\/1995496387929370996?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">December 1, 2025<\/a><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In this month\u2019s Q&amp;A, contributing editor Serena Sigillito interviews Dr. Angela Franks about her new book,&nbsp;Body and Identity: A History of the Empty Self. Serena Sigillito: I\u2019ve just finished reading your fascinating new book. Can you give&nbsp;PD&nbsp;readers a brief description<span class=\"ellipsis\">&hellip;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=141546\">Read more &#8250;<\/a><\/div>\n<p><!-- end of .read-more --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":794,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[39,175,92,133,117,129],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-141546","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-culture-watch","category-anthropology","category-books","category-history","category-philosophy","category-psychology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/141546","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/794"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=141546"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/141546\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":141550,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/141546\/revisions\/141550"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=141546"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=141546"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=141546"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}