{"id":14317,"date":"2009-08-07T01:36:50","date_gmt":"2009-08-07T01:36:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/site\/2017\/2\/1985\/aci-comment_to_mark_harris_re_preludium_post_of_4_august_2009\/"},"modified":"2009-08-07T01:36:50","modified_gmt":"2009-08-07T01:36:50","slug":"aci-comment_to_mark_harris_re_preludium_post_of_4_august_2009","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=14317","title":{"rendered":"ACI&#8211;Comment to Mark Harris, re: Preludium Post of 4 August 2009"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>(<a href=\"http:\/\/anglicanfuture.blogspot.com\/2009\/08\/followup-on-communion-and-hierarchy-my.html\">Please note that the post of Mark Harris to which this responds may be found here<\/a>).<\/i><\/p>\n<p>So what if your main point is, as we believe, wrong? What if the move forward (C056 and D025) has been undertaken regardless of the threat to Communion and its unity, out of a sense of justice and rights? What if proponents of the new sexual ethic truly want to be a church on its own and fully reject the logic of a Covenant or Windsor? Interdependence in a Communion, as is intimated by 3.2.5, is precisely what is being rejected in favor of autonomy and a federal association. The nominations in LA and MN make that abundantly clear. So again, we hold that your main point is wrong and that TEC is moving clearly and resolutely in the opposite direction of the approved covenant text.<\/p>\n<p>It is because of this that ACI speaks of provisional rejection. What we do not understand is why supposedly liberal Christians wish to hold hostage to their way of thinking those who prefer interdependence in Communion. On logical terms, why must all be bound to go the way of autonomy and a national denomination? Why do you not see that some truly wish to belong to a catholic church and an Anglican Communion via a covenant, instead of being lumped with those whose understanding and hopes are very different? Moreover, most of us believe that in so doing we are upholding the constitution of this church. No one is contesting that your way of being an Episcopalian is winning out in General Convention voting. What we do not understand is why you don\u2019t declare that this entails an autonomous church, and a way of being Anglican the proposed covenant does not embrace, and then let those who wish to embrace this do so? Surely that is congruent with a liberal position and mindset.<\/p>\n<p>What remains terribly confused for those wishing to embrace a covenant of interdependence is your insistence on saying nothing has changed, that there has been no rejection, that we are studying the covenant, etc., but insisting at the same time that the American Episcopal way is a way of autonomy and independent action. If this be so, why not declare it and concede that those who wish to be Episcopalians in Communion ought to do so?<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.anglicancommunioninstitute.com\/2009\/08\/comment-to-mark-harris-re-preludium-post-of-4-august-2009\">Read it all<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(Please note that the post of Mark Harris to which this responds may be found here). So what if your main point is, as we believe, wrong? What if the move forward (C056 and D025) has been undertaken regardless of<span class=\"ellipsis\">&hellip;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=14317\">Read more &#8250;<\/a><\/div>\n<p><!-- end of .read-more --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":794,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36,76,80,172,66,34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14317","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anglican-episcopal","category-anglican-covenant","category-anglican-identity","category-ecclesiology","category-episcopal-church-tec","category-theology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14317","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/794"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=14317"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/14317\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=14317"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=14317"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=14317"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}