{"id":7413,"date":"2008-07-23T15:34:08","date_gmt":"2008-07-23T15:34:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/127.0.0.1\/site\/2017\/2\/1985\/times_bishops_invited_to_sit_under_the_churchs_shady_tree_and_give_tribal_p\/"},"modified":"2008-07-23T15:34:08","modified_gmt":"2008-07-23T15:34:08","slug":"times_bishops_invited_to_sit_under_the_churchs_shady_tree_and_give_tribal_p","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=7413","title":{"rendered":"Times: Bishops invited to sit under the Church\u2019s \u201d\u02dcshady tree\u2019 and give tribal politics a go"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bishop Tilewa Johnson, from Gambia, said that his own villages used indaba, but called it bantaba, which means \u201cunder the big tree\u201d\u009d.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe fact that an attempt has been made to use the process is a good one. But of course it clashes with the culture here of everybody keeping an eye on the clock,\u201d\u009d he said. \u201cIndaba has no time limit. We keep going until a solution is found. Indaba takes place under a huge, shady tree where villagers assemble to talk about things. The aggrieved and the perpetrators must both be there to respond.\u201d\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Allison Lawrence, wife of the Bishop of South Carolina, Mark Lawrence, said: \u201cThey have taken a Zulu word and used it for an American concept. The African concept when you do an indaba is you talk, talk, talk until you agree. In these indaba groups, they talk a little and then someone changes the subject if they don\u2019t like it. The Americans are feeling railroaded and manipulated. Even the Africans are saying, \u201d\u02dcThis is not indaba\u2019.\u201d\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Bishops emerging from yesterday\u2019s sessions described being divided into groups of about 40. As if there were not already enough divisions among Anglicans, they were divided up further into groups of four or five and given papers on subjects that the conference is addressing: mission, millennium goals, poverty \u201d\u201c the list is long. They talked and a rapporteur took notes, to be passed up to the next level. No one quite knew who or where that was.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, none of the bishops asked by The Times had yet been given a chance to discuss the one thing that they are all desperate to address: how can the Anglican Communion survive the consecration of Gene Robinson, the openly gay Bishop of New Hampshire.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/comment\/faith\/article4381000.ece\">Read it all<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bishop Tilewa Johnson, from Gambia, said that his own villages used indaba, but called it bantaba, which means \u201cunder the big tree\u201d\u009d. \u201cThe fact that an attempt has been made to use the process is a good one. But of<span class=\"ellipsis\">&hellip;<\/span><\/p>\n<div class=\"read-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/?p=7413\">Read more &#8250;<\/a><\/div>\n<p><!-- end of .read-more --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":794,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[36,50,202,64,514,79],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7413","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-anglican-episcopal","category-international-news-commentary","category-africa","category-lambeth-2008","category-same-sex-blessings","category-sexuality-debate-in-anglican-communion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7413","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/794"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7413"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7413\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7413"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7413"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/kendallharmon.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7413"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}