Q: How did the idea to have “discernment groups” come about?
A: One of the things that the (2008) Lambeth Conference was trying to achieve was to create a process within the conference itself to enable every voice to be heard and we felt that there were two or three things that needed to happen. First of all, there needed to be trust. Secondly, there needed to be groups that were small enough for people not to feel that they had too large a group of people they were talking to. And thirdly, a process where they didn’t have to have everything very clearly worked out in their minds before they could speak and talk.
The way we did it at the Lambeth Conference was, first of all, we put people into Bible study groups, and those were groups of eight or nine people that met every day. And so, there was a sense of trust growing out between those Bible study groups. Then, we put five Bible study groups together to make an indaba group. So we were building on units that were already getting to know one another.
We took that same principle here. We created Bible study groups of eight or nine people with a cross section of people across the Communion, trying to make sure that all the groups had bishops, clergy and laity within them. And then we combined three Bible study groups into the four discernment groups.
Q: Why not just call them indaba?
A: There was quite a lot of confusion about why the Lambeth Conference chose the word indaba. My reading of the way it came about was that when indaba was introduced as a way of describing what was going on at Lambeth, it was actually describing the whole process at the Conference, not just what happened in those two-hour groups, the second half of each morning.
[blockquote]There was quite a lot of confusion about why the Lambeth Conference chose the word indaba[/blockquote]
“Indaba Babel”
How was it that every voice was heard when a huge swath of bishops were not even there?
I guess all we need is the right process.
The ‘Listening Process’ has gotten down to I John 4:5-6
There is no point in further dialogue with people who live their own surreal unscriptural reality – in a twilight zone that is not based on truth but wishes.
Yet it is much more sinister than that – the reality is that the people running this church and communion are celebrating and committing mortal sin…immorality, abortion and syncretism that blur the Gospel, deny the power and truth of God and lead people into slavery to sin and away from Jesus Christ.
What they are doing is evil. There is no other word for it.
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Well, we needed to be sure the colonial powers remained in power and to appear to be placating the natives whilst we did it, so we -in typical colonialist fashion- took what we wanted and used the name but not the actual thing and crafted it into a machination which would appear to have benefits while we kept all the power. Ubuntu will follow as the TECcites saw how well it worked.
The natives know better, but, they are, you know, natives. Perhaps, when they are better educated and more capable of taking care of themselves we can lose these little charades and let them actually into the power centres. I would guess in another two or three generations time they will be civilized enough. Perhaps sooner if they accept the gaygenda we support and give up their chicken dinners. We hope the money obtained for this end will buy enough chicken dinners for now.
Inadaba was quite well identified by Canon Dr. Vinay K. Samuel:
“Indaba is the badge of oppression. It is the badge of a non-revelational faith and an untransforming gospel. It should be resisted.â€
And this functionary talks about how wonderful it was? He who has ears to hear, let him hear.