Church of England Newspaper: Rules out at ACC

(By George Conger)

Observance of the Anglican Consultative Council’s bylaws are discretionary, a spokesman for the organization tells The Church of England

ACC spokesman Jan Butter told CEN the future membership rules of the organization which seek to promote gender parity take precedence over its existing rules.

However, the Archbishop of Canterbury’s press spokesman tells The Church of England Newspaper, the ACC staff’s views are not the final word on the matter, as the appointment of Bishop Ian Douglas and Canon Janet Trisk to the ACC Standing Committee are under legal review.

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19 comments on “Church of England Newspaper: Rules out at ACC

  1. New Reformation Advocate says:

    Surprise, surprise. Why am I not surprised?

    The same ABoC who infamously declared that the firm deadline of the Primates for TEC (to comply with the demands they made at Dar es Salaam in Feb., 2005) was actually just “a guideline,” has now likewise declared that complying with the ACC’s official bylaw’s is merely “discretionary.” How convenient!

    How pathetic.

    How ridiculous.

    Is it any wonder that I have no trust or respect for the ABoC as a church leader and archbishop?? He may be a fine theologian in many ways, but as the foremost bishop in the AC he’s an unmitigated disaster.

    Too bad for the ACI and the CP bishops. They’ve hitched their wagon to the wrong horse. Cantaur has again proven himself unworthy of trust.

    David Handy+

  2. Morsey says:

    Thank you for your comment New Reformation Advocate, NRA. When by-laws and rules can be broken/redefined, willy nilly, we are definitely in Alice’s Wonderland. I have a favor to ask NRA; which parish church are you the rector? I’d like to contact you directly. Thank you and God Bless.

  3. Creedal Episcopalian says:

    [blockquote][b]ACC [/b]spokesman Jan Butter told CEN the future membership rules of the organization which seek to promote gender parity take precedence over its existing rules. [/blockquote]

    Not that we have been given any reason to trust the ABC, but I have seen nothing yet to say that he is responsible for this ( or vice versa, but let us be charitable). I think the hounds would be better off to sniff around Manhattan.

  4. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    Quite unbelievable abuse of the rule of law – who is running the Communion, ZANU-PF and Robert Mugabe?

    Butter needs clarifying.

  5. miserable sinner says:

    Changing rules is fine as long as you follow the rules about changing the rules.

    An organization without rules is not an organization. And, if so, certainly no longer can honestly call itself an ‘instrument of unity’.


  6. tjmcmahon says:

    #3- It was the ABoC and no other who gave the Standing Committee papal level authority to overrule the primates meeting, Lambeth and to determine who could, and who could not, sit as a member of the ACC. This is a monster of his creation. He has had a year since GC09’s declarations of disobedience, 6 months since Trisk’s illegal elevation to the Standing Committee, several months since both Glasspool’s consecration (is not KJS at least equally culpable of moratorium breaking as Phil Ashey?), and months since Douglas’ consecration disqualified him for his ACC seat to set this to rights. Which the ABoC could have done with a single press release the day after Douglas’ consecration. He did not do so.

  7. Larry Morse says:

    My rules are more important than your rules, because my rules are more important so they should take precedence because of their importance, which is what makes them important. Besides we believe in their importance; that makes them more important too. So you-all should follow our rules which we believe in, and that would make our rules your rules so your rules could then be important. This is even handed and just and Christian. God also agrees and He follows our rules because they are important to Him too. Larry

  8. Branford says:

    What a banana republic!

  9. off2 says:

    Banana, yes.

    Republic, umm.

  10. azusa says:

    #1: “Cantaur”. Hmm, is that a mythical beast – half man, half donkey?

  11. Brian from T19 says:

    When is the next Standing Committee meeting?

  12. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    Fascinating – Bishop David Anderson has more – the Presiding Bishop is apparently planning to drop into Dr Williams’ swimming pool.

    [26th July I believe Brian.]

  13. Katherine says:

    I have felt since the inappropriate conduct at the last ACC meeting, at which deception was employed and Bishop Mouneer was treated with such disrespect, that believing Anglicans should simply drop participation in the ACC and in this “Standing Committee.” Enough manipulation and deception is enough. Finished. The Communion now consists of individual Provinces in varying degrees of communion with one another. The ACO office and the ACC have ceased to have any positive functions.

    Won’t that be quite the scene, Pageantmaster?

  14. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    I have no idea Katherine. The whole thing appears to be being run [if that is the correct term] like a complete dog’s breakfast.

  15. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    I should say, that there is a battle of wills going on. Dr Williams continues to try to set one side off against the other, but the GS have stopped playing, which means that Dr Williams has a problem on his hands with KJS, and does not have the GS behind him given the raft of resignations, but I really have no idea what he thinks he is up to – if anything.

    It all comes from not addressing the elephant in the room, the GAFCON provinces, and thinking the GS can be manipulated to isolate them. Silly really, but there we are.

  16. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    Oh by the way, a company’s bye-laws are not optional. If a company exists, they must be followed, to the letter. If the company does not exist, they may not be used at all.

    In this case the ACC is not yet incorporated, and so the bye-laws have no effect whatever. The original constitution is the governing document for the ACC and its standing committee operates.

    Anything else the ACO may tell you IS rubbish.

    Butter should be sacked.

  17. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    And the other thing to remember is, that while the company is not incorporated, the existing trustees have no protection of limited liability. They might have a right of indemnity, but prima facae they may well currently have unlimited personal liability as trustees. Food for thought for those so desperate to be on the Standing Committee.

    Perhaps the departed primates were wise, in the event.

  18. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    Oh ho – what’s all this then?
    [blockquote]Name & Registered Office:
    W11 1AP
    Company No. 07311767

    Status: Active
    Date of Incorporation: 12/07/2010
    Country of Origin: United Kingdom

    Company Type: PRI/LBG/NSC (Private, Limited by guarantee, no share capital, use of ‘Limited’ exemption)
    Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
    None Supplied

    Accounting Reference Date: 31/07
    Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
    Next Accounts Due: 12/04/2012
    Last Return Made Up To:
    Next Return Due: 09/08/2011
    Looks like it has been sneak-registered at the Companies Registry in the last 4 days as a company limited by guarantee.

    So that leaves the issue of whether they can use the bye-laws doubt at the JSC? Is this how they are going to try to sneak Trisk and Ian Douglas in, this way?

    Well, according to the Charity Commission website, the Anglican Consultative Council is still operating under its old form and constitution and has not been transferred into Anglican Consultative Council Limited.

    So the answer is……NO.

    Is it any wonder though that so many of us think that they are manipulative scheming bastards?

  19. New Reformation Advocate says:

    Personal aside to Morsey (#2).

    Thanks for your kind words. I live in Richmond, VA, but I’m not currently the rector or on staff at any church. I’m trying to launch a new career/vocation as a free lance writer and working on my first two books. However, I’m still a priest in +John Guernsey’s Diocese of the Holy Spirit in the new ACNA.

    David Handy+