Were TEC Bishops Voting on Same-sex Marriage in Order and Quorate?

From a comment on Stand Firm

For the record only (as it won’t actually matter, given the status of C/C).

129 votes is not the number required but well below it, according to the rules for voting a Trial Rite.

One needs a majority of all those entitled to vote ”” and that means, all retired Bishops, assistant Bishops, etc.

This was also pointed out in 2012. The Trial Rite vote technically could not have been achieved, and so the ”˜provisional rite.’

I mention this not because it will have any effect whatsoever. It won’t.

But anyone reading the c/c on the votes required for passing a Trial Rite will immediately see they did not get the necessary votes. Indeed, given the laxity now prevailing, no one even went to any effort to worry about the quorum.

When it is full steam ahead, it is full steam ahead.

Read it all and see also Vote by Roll Resolution A036 – Amend Canon I.18 Marriage


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6 comments on “Were TEC Bishops Voting on Same-sex Marriage in Order and Quorate?

  1. CSeitz-ACI says:

    It is fully reasonable to assume that the same proportion that would have participated in a roll call vote affirmative on canons would have supported a Trial Rite, and in the latter case a majority of all entitled to vote is on the order of 140-150.

  2. Katherine says:

    Yes, they probably would have, but as you point out, Dr. Seitz, they didn’t.

  3. Luke says:

    It is certainly questionable to assume that the retired Episcopal bishops would have voted in the same proportion as active bishops.

  4. CSeitz-ACI says:

    My point is that a)while we did not have a roll call vote on a Trial Rite needing 150 votes to pass, b) it is reasonable to extrapolate from the roll call vote on the canons, and c) that the total needed to pass would have failed.

    I also believe that the retired Bishops comprising ‘those entitled to vote’ would not necessarily have lined up with the affirmative votes on this matter.

    But we will never know and the present generation of TEC does not care anyway.

  5. Jim the Puritan says:

    There is no record the Dennis Canon passed either, I understand.

  6. dwstroudmd+ says:

    Rules are for people with little minds or the hobgoblins of sophisticated minds, but neither type of mind is a worry for TEc bishops any more than orthodoxy or church teaching and practice for two millenia.