As we did yesterday, we’ll add to this post throughout the day with interesting excerpts of commentary from around the blogosphere. Keep checking for updates.
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Wednesday Morning Update:
No new entries have been added to the main text, but we’ve provided some links in the comments to other blogs providing commentary roundup.
From Scott Gunn at Inclusive Church:
Clarity, please — and my own “radical solution”
http://inclusivechurch.blogspot.com/2007/09/clarity-please-and-my-own-radical.html
Not too long before the House of Bishops began to meet, Kendall Harmon made this plea:
So let the TEC leaders have the courage of their convictions and say what they actually believe before God and the global Anglican leaders. If they fail to do so, where is the justice in that?
I’m in full agreement with Kendall here. Too often, we progressives in ECUSA have been willing to duck behind polity or otherwise obscure our actions. The bishops needs to acknowledge their authority and their responsibility.
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Must reading from Matt Kennedy:
Duplicity and same sex blessings: The difference between Pastoral Care and Public Rites
http://www.standfirminfaith.com/index.php/site/article/6293/
The bishops’ at last night’s press conference bent over backwards to get their talking points out: the House of Bishop’s response will be “clear” and “unambiguous”
And yet as we have seen, an Episcopalian bishops’ understanding of clarity and forthrightness is not wholly consistent with that of an ordinary person. An Episcopalian bishop, for example, can “permit” countless “acts of pastoral care” in his/her diocese wherein an officially licensed Episcopalian priest, in a “public” ceremony, blesses union of a gay and/or lesbian couple and still claim that he/she has not “authorized public rites for same sex blessings.”
The distinction such a bishop seeks to draw (or the obfuscation behind which such a bishop seeks to hide) is between a “rite” or liturgy authorized for use by the diocesan office and an actual ceremony, public or not, using a liturgy that does not enjoy the bishop’s “official” sanction. […]
The duplicity evidenced by Bishop Bruno in last night’s press conference (which is not at all unique to Bishop Bruno but simply reflective of the institutional deception that has arisen since 2003) is precisely the sort of duplicity that the Dar Es Salaam Communique seeks to disallow. The Primates want same sex blessings to end.
If what we have seen so far is any indication, the House of Bishops is making every possible effort, making every acrobatic twist, not to be clear, not to be forthright and not to give an honest answer.
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Over at Covenant is a fascinating reflection on ++Rowan Williams sermon at the Ecumenical service last week by Dr. Jean Meade:
Dr. Jean Meade: Reflection from New Orleans
http://covenant-communion.com/?p=189#more-189
[blockquote]But wrapped up there was the identical sermon being preached to and applied to the Episcopal Church and its Bishops, don’t you think? It is a “real wound” that the conservatives have been driven out, and are being driven out, and those in charge must realize that their own selves are endangered when these “others”, on whom they deeply depend for their meaning as Christians, are treated as if they had no worth. They must change their hearts and their very image of themselves. [Surely the Archbishop would by now have picked up on the always-unstated subtext that those of us who remain in the City of New Orleans generally say “good riddance” to those who have left, and are happy to see them never come back””just about the same attitude the Bishops have about the traditionalists who have left and are leaving.][/blockquote]
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EPC pastor David Fischler at Reformed Pastor joins in the vocal commentary about +Bruno’s remarks at yesterday’s press conference
Busted (UPDATE: Plausible Deniability)
It isn’t often that someone in a clerical collar and pectoral cross is caught in a flat-out, bold-faced, demonstrable whopper. Such, however, was the fate of Los Angeles Episcopal Bishop Jon J. Bruno at a press conference in New Orleans last night.
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Mark Harris at Preludium comments on the Making of Sausage:
http://anglicanfuture.blogspot.com/2007/09/on-matter-of-making-sausage.html
Every effort to make a collective statement requires the addition of material which does not satisfy the discriminating writer, much as making sausage often includes binders and fillers that appall. Persons of discriminating taste ought not watch while sausage, law or group communications are being produced. Having been part of several drafting committees I can speak from personal experience on the matter. […]
I believe the House of Bishops is working hard at being and doing what is expected of them. Perhaps it is all our fault in expecting them to be and do too much. Some of us out here in the church have forgotten, along with some of them, that the work we do as The Episcopal Church (as opposed say to the diocese, or the parish, or the youth group) is cycled on a general three year plan. General Convention, the great sausage machine of The Episcopal Church, takes in all our concerns raised over three years and produces sausage which is then consumed (with greater and lesser gusto) in the years following. This in turn feeds into the next round. And so it goes.
It is perhaps too much to expect that the House of Bishops will produce definitive statements at this point. Some of us do not think they ought to do so. (See the Consultation statement.) In any event the House of Bishops, what ever they do today, deserve our thanks and prayers. Believing that it is necessary to make sausage, they are hard at work. Whether or not it is eatable remains to be seen.
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And the best headline award goes to…. Ruth Gledhill! For this gem: Goodbye Father Jeffrey. Hello, Sister Moon.
http://timescolumns.typepad.com/gledhill/2007/09/goodbye-father-.html
(Right, I know we didn’t actually ANNOUNCE a headline contest, but Ruth wins hands down anyway 😉 ) Ruth writes:
The Bishop of Rio Grande, Jeffrey Steenson, is today explaining to the US bishops why he is to be received into the Roman Catholic Church. He leaves an Episcopal Church in disarray, led no longer by a ‘house’ but by a ‘community’ of bishops, with a songbook of praise to Mother Earth, Sister Moon and Brother Sun. Thank you BabyBlue for finding out what the bishops are singing in New Orleans and thus reminding us that this whole affair actually has very little to do with homosexuality.
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Northern Plains Anglicans are pulling no punches:
Bishops and other assorted Episcopal leaders are lying
http://northernplainsanglicans.blogspot.com/2007/09/bishops-and-other-assorted-episcopal.html
[in discussing the lack of transparency re: systemic decline, and also the apparent lie of Bishop Jon Bruno]
We can argue about all kinds of issues, but one of the reasons that the Episcopal Church is in so much trouble is that its leaders have shown themselves untrustworthy. One of this week’s morning lessons (1979 Book of Common Prayer) includes an instruction for Christ’s people to live together with “sincerity and truth”. Let us pray for honesty from our leaders. The flock needs to know where it is being led, and if the voice calling it is the Good Shepherd or a thief.
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BabyBlue and an unnamed reporter discuss this morning’s open session:
http://babybluecafe.blogspot.com/2007/09/day-seven-live-from-house-of-bishops.html
I was just whispering with one of the national reporters here and she thought that the bishops standing up and talking about all the parishes leaving backfired on them. The way they talked (for example, the PB talked about the “Secret Church of Jesus Christ”) was jocular, not sorrowful. But I think it’s significant that Bishop Lee did not participate in that “event.”
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Bishop Steenson as part of his resignation statement, as reported in the Living Church:
“It seems to me that The Episcopal Church has made a decisive turn away from those extraordinary efforts to preserve the Communion, such as Archbishop Rowan’s [Williams] proposal last summer in ”˜The Challenge and Hope of Being an Anglican Today.’ It is difficult to avoid the conclusion that The Episcopal Church has rejected the discipline of communion but wants it only on its own terms.
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David Trimble of Still on Patrol weighs in on +Jon Bruno and the culture of obfuscation of the HoB:
Same-Sex, Lies, and Video Feeds
http://stillonpatrol.typepad.com/still_on_patrol/2007/09/same-sex-lies-a.html
So, did +Bruno make a bold-faced lie to the NYT? Arguably, especially if you consider a “lie” to include obscuring the truth. Did he prevaricate and obfuscate by some winking and nodding at what is and is not officially approved and doing what he wants anyway? Most certainly. After all, isn’t this the TCGC way? No one associated with TCGC these days seems capable of giving a straight, honest, accountable answer to any question posed to them. Watching a HOB/COB press conference is almost like watching a Senate hearing where everything which occurs after the initial call to order is shaded, nuanced, and massaged to the point where the truth becomes a forgotten and antiquated concept.
In that it appears that +Bruno is among those on the writing committee, what hope is there that the “new document” which is supposed to emerge today will be any more acceptable than yesterday’s “draft”? The repeated assurances of a need for clarity do not lend themselves to any notion that TCGC is planning to repent or back away from anything it has done over the past 30 years. My prediction is that today’s new “draft” will surpass yesterday’s in its single-digit salute given to the Anglican Communion, and will this time include both the right and left hand versions of that gesture both to the AC at large and to the orthodox in particular.
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Dave Sims at Covenant comments on +Steenson’s statement and asks some great questions:
You Can’t Get There From Here: +Steenson says Windsor Process insufficiently Catholic
http://covenant-communion.com/?p=191
These are sobering thoughts for any Anglican concerned with real Catholicity. Apparently something happened at the NO meeting which confirmed doubts that +Steenson has been wrestling with for some time. The issues he lays before the HOB describe broad, intractable problems, endemic to contemporary Anglicanism.
So, what would Cantuar say to this charge? Is the idea of a Covenant not sufficiently unifying to provide genuine Catholic order? Is Anglicanism really at a dead end with regards to a future Catholic unity?
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Cherie Wetzel confirms Baby Blue’s impression that the press were not impressed by the discussion of “incursions by foreign prelates,” and that it may have backfired on TEC:
(via e-mail, her report #10. Will eventually be posted here).
Next, we heard the report about parishes in dioceses that have disassociated with TEC and gone “foreign.” There was no way to gloss over this report or minimize its impact on the press. Clearly more than 30 parishes were listed, 50 clergy named and other announcements of new parishes begun by CANA and the AMiA in more than 10 dioceses. At the conclusion of the report, Bishop Dean Wolfe of Kansas stated that he wanted the visitors to know that given the great list we had just heard, TEC had only lost 2 parishes. Just after this, the press was dismissed from the meeting. Incredulous at the statistical analysis just given, this now is the question in the pressroom.
“Bishop Dean Wolfe of Kansas stated that he wanted the visitors to know that given the great list we had just heard, TEC had only lost 2 parishes.”
The Diocese of Dallas lost more than two parishes. Just off the top of my head, we lost Christ Church, Plano; St. Matthias, Dallas; and Faith, Allen. Some churches had significant splits, but are congregations still functioning there: St. Nicholas, Flower Mound; Resurrection, Dallas; and Holy Trinity, Garland.
I guess truth is what you make of it in TECUSA’s HoB.
YBIC,
Phil Snyder
I am tempted to say that Bishop Bruno wouldn’t know a same sex blessing ritual if he saw one (or participated in one).
Bruno stated that he is sure he never gave permission for those 2 parishes to leave either.
Jon Bruno is a liar, as well as an hireling, whose own the sheep are not. The latter goes for KJS, VGR and all those others who seek to lead the flock of Christ out of the sheepfold.
Ian, these false shepherds will have much to account for on the Day of Christ’s appearing.
Be careful…the Brother Sun Sister Moon reference is from a canticle by St. Francis of Assisi.
True enough, but the other stuff in their repertoire is not derived from anything in the sacred tradition.
Adam12, yes of course. But it has been modified to take out references to praising the Lord and instead becomes a prayer TO “Mother Earth.” St Francis Canticle is here http://www.webster.edu/~barrettb/canticle.htm
Note this language in the original.
Most high, all powerful, all good Lord! All praise is yours, all glory, all honor, and all blessing. To you, alone, Most High, do they belong. No mortal lips are worthy to pronounce your name. […] Be praised, my Lord, through our sister Mother Earth, who feeds us and rules us, and produces various fruits with colored flowers and herbs.
Big difference!
Speaking of secret church, how about the secret sect the PB leads which attempts to hide behind the language of traditional Christianity while at the same time redefining it? They will do the same with the requests of Dar Es Salaam…. if only they would spend as much time on exegesis as they have spent prevaricating in the last four years!
Matthew 7:2.
Let’s all watch it.
Big question–Where is the minority report? Seitz and Radner have been telling us that the plan is to have a substantial minority report. But there was only one “no” vote. Does this mean that Howe and Stanton and Salmon and all the CA bishops have given the thumbs up to the HoB statement? I am just asking. Will the report come out later or is it dead?
As someone who ministers in the Middle East a big question is this: if there is a major split in the Communion, which way will our province (The Episcopal Church in Jerusalem and the Middle East) go? With the conservative global south with which we share much in terms of theology? Or with the TEC-led North from whom we receive ample funds?
That is a good question. Put loyalty to the Gospel over funds. As Bishop Orombi reminded us today: property and money are by-products of obedient Spirit-filled lifes. They are not the goal.
The confusion is beginning. I did a Google News search on “Anglican” and the first two headlines were from the BBC and the NYT. Compare the two:
BBC headline:
[blockquote]Anglicans to halt gay ordinations
Leaders of the Episcopal Church in the United States have agreed to halt the ordination of gay clergy to prevent a split in the Anglican Church.
The Church will also no longer approve prayers to bless same-sex couples.[/blockquote]
{[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7013552.stm]read it all[/url]}
NYT headline:
[blockquote]Episcopal Bishops Reject Anglican Church’s Orders
Bishops of the Episcopal Church on Tuesday rejected demands by leaders of the worldwide Anglican Communion to roll back the church’s liberal stance on homosexuality, increasing the possibility of fracture within the communion and the Episcopal Church itself.[/blockquote]
{[url=http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/us/26episcopal.html?_r=1&hp;&oref;=slogin]read it all[/url]}
Good for Neela Banerjee!
Jody, thanks for those links. We elves crashed last night not too long after the statement had been released, having already been at the computer for about 15 hours…
By the way, since this elf doesn’t have a lot of time on the keyboard today, here’s a link to Episcopal Cafe that rounds up some of the press reports about the New Orleans Statement:
http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/episcopal_church/house_of_bishops_stories_and_r_1.html
Thinking Anglicans Press roundup is here:
http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/002644.html
It is hard to understand the continuing bustle and chatter about NO.What did you learn? You learned that TEC is not going to change course, that the system is rich in hypocrisy and dishonesty, and that TEC is going to bafflegab its dishonesty in the hopes that somehow no one will see their patent manipulativeness. But you knew this before NO, all of it, and you knew that the ABC was gong to “listen” and comment without effect. You read Susan’s remarks. She said, “Stick it up your nose.”
Is this not clear enough?
So. Where are you now? Are you any wiser? Has all this introverted talk altered anything one iota? Is anyone, anywhere, closer to action? If there is no action to condemn and expel TEC, what will you do?
Talk some more? Repeat the same charges over and over? And when the 30th comes and goes and nothing?
Kendall, is it possible to write to the ABC? Yes, yes, I am aware that the ABC is not likely to pay attention to the perfect nobody from nowhere in Maine. Still, I am inclined to do so – after the 30tj – to add my voice to what must be a cataract of mail pouring on his head. FOr the rest of you, at what point does your utter impotence either silence you or cause you to actively go to war?
Am I going to war? Indeed I am, in my own little way, for I am part of the ACA, a good sized organization that has had not a word to say about this spreading quagmire. I expect that my deacon, the dean of the cathedral here in Maine, the bishop and the suffragan will find my demands for open speech and action the sort of thing that will suggest I take a long vacation from my church. And maybe I will, and perhaps I will leave this blog, for obviously, no one here listens to a word I say. Clearly, I am an ousider and I will have to be content with that. But go to war I will, however ineffectual it will be. And you all need to do the same. If the 30th produces no violent rupture, if the ABC is unable simply to turn his back on TEC and say to the Anglican world, “Shun these imposters,” who do you have to blame but yourselves if you do not stick your necks out and DEMAND that TEC be excized? You denied the accuracy of my metaphor, but I tell you it is correct: TEC is a cancer and it is metastisizing. You will cut it out or you will be destroyed from within. You do not turn the other cheek to cancer, nor will praying stay its course.
Larry
Another press roundup with excerpts of bishops’ reactions — VERY HELPFUL — at Episcopal Cafe. Thanks Jim. We couldn’t have done it any better, and frankly don’t have the heart for it this morning. So glad you’re on call.
Here’s the link:
http://www.episcopalcafe.com/lead/episcopal_church/house_of_bishops_stories_and_r.html
I may be the only one who feels this way, but the “stickies” make it much harder to keep track of what is new, and I urge you all to reconsider their use. I am so grateful for all that you guys do, so (to quote Archbishop Annis, “I’m sorry if what I say causes offense”).
#21, point taken NBS. We don’t use them very often. This one will be unstickied very soon. And don’t expect to use more stickies any time soon. We always do try to put a note to look for new posts below.
#19 LM, the Real Battle we have to fight going forward is to maintain enough real Christians in the pews to make sure the Bishops put in place are committed to Christianity and Salvation instead of making their constiencies feel empowered or accepted or just to help them “feel” better. Now there’s a Battle for the Ages…
How’s that for the Battle of a Lifetime? Like the movies…
“I assume then it’s a hopeless battle against very long odds and our chances are success or even coming out alive are slim?”
“Aye, that is!”
“Well then, we’d better get to it.”
KTF!…..mrb