New York Senator Hillary Clinton’s lead over Illinois Senator Barack Obama in South Carolina’s Presidential Primary has disappeared. The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of the race shows Clinton with 36% of the vote while Obama is the top choice for 34% of the state’s Likely Primary Voters. A month ago, Clinton had a ten-point advantage. In September, the former First Lady was up by thirteen points.
i’ve always thought folks in soth carolina were smart – this proves it again :}
it will be interesting to hear about the obama/oprah event this weekend
I’m waiting for the “Oprah” bump.
[blockquote]i’ve always thought folks in soth carolina were smart – this proves it again :} [/blockquote]
1976 – Carter
1980 – Reagan
1984 – Reagan
1988 – Bush I
1992 – Bush I
1996 – Dole
2000 – Bush II
2004 – Bush II
Indeed, Bob, it looks like South Carolinians wised up about three decades ago.
can’t wait to cast my vote for Mitt here in SC!
It’s interesting that Carolinian John Edwards isn’t part of the SC Equation…
Bye-bye gorgeous!
I think Obama is attractive until you look closely at his positions. Clinton, on the other hand starts getting repuslive as soon as you get close enough to hear her. She’s been around too long for many people to be able to project onto her a better persona than she is capable of herself.
I’m still waiting for Prnce Albert to step in.
Interesting Christopher – it’s Obama’s judgement & position on issues that inspires me and so many other – as an example:
# Return to Paygo: compensate for all new spending. (Oct 2006)
# Supports federal programs to protect rural economy. (May 2004)
# Put the Confederate flag in a museum, not the state house. (Apr 2007)
# Opposes gay marriage; supports civil union & gay equality. (Oct 2006)
# Tax incentives for corporate responsibility. (Jun 2004)
# Close tax loopholes for US companies relocating abroad. (Jun 2004)
# REAL USA Plan: Reward companies that create domestic jobs. (Jun 2004)
# Voted YES on repealing tax subsidy for companies which move US jobs offshore. (Mar 2005)
# Close Guantanamo and restore the right of habeas corpus. (Jun 2007)
# Get first responders the healthcare and equipment they need. (Mar 2007)
# Comprehensive plan for our veterans healthcare. (Mar 2007)
# Grow size of military to maintain rotation schedules. (Oct 2006)
As a community organizer on Chicago’s South Side, he saw first hand that black churches minister to social needs out of necessity.
Bruce Bawer, author of [i]While Europe Slept[/i], wants to like Obama but can’t get by some things:
[i]So when a friend lent me his copy of Obama’s 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father, I gave up my dream of spending my week’s vacation on the Costa Blanca blissfully unplugged from current events and took the damn thing with me. To my surprise, it turned out not to be a bad beach book at all – it was well written, richly human (i.e., not the usual politician’s pap), and genuinely moving.
But it disturbed me, too. [/i]
[url=http://www.pajamasmedia.com/2007/12/bawer_on_obama.php]LINK[/url]
The closer you get to actually having to vote for somebody, the worse Billary Clinton looks. Of course, the rest of the pack doesn’t look much better.
the snarkster
#9
quite the contrary actually – from obama to chris dodd to bill richardson, there are a number of really engaged alternatives
There’s much to like about Obama — he was a high school class mate of my best man as well.
My main concern is the lack of executive experience across the Dem field, with the exception of Bill Richardson, as mentioned by Mr. Carlton, above. I can’t figure out why he’s not doing better.
Must admit, I am hopeful for this. If nothing else, imagining what an Obama – Huckabee contest would be like vs. a Clinton – Guiliani is truly a breath of fresh air. I know it’s unlikely, but hey, a boy can dream.
Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton is truly frightening for a number of reasons.
I think Hillary peaked too early. She may rebound because she is the machine candidate, but she has her work cut out for her.
Obama is a fellow alumnus. Anyone who has eaten in the same delis I have will probably get my vote.
But seriously . . . I note a) the interesting uptick in Huckabee support mentioned in passing at the bottom of the page, and b) I have reluctanctly come to the conclusion that the best Democratic ticket (from among those actually running) would be Biden-Obama, while the Republicans would do best with McCain-Huckabee. However, I consider the former almost impossible, and the latter very unlikely.
Obama does not believe that the Constitution extends to infants who survive an attempted abortion as is confirmed by his opposition to the Illinois Born Alive Infants Protection Act —legislation to guard against infanticide. It is hard to see how Christians can support a politician with such extreme anti-life beliefs.
#12, I agree. Obama v. Huckabee, there’d be contest to see. Hillary v. Rudy, good heavens, the whole country will have to dig out of the poisonous mud those two will sling.
It’s difficult to see a scenario (still) where Mrs. Clinton loses the nomination. The SC poll appears to be an outlier (see here, and scroll down for the historic polling data), and she is consistently ahead in New Hampshire (see here). She may lose Iowa, but so what? How many times has the winner of a contested Iowa caucus actually won the nomination, let alone the presidency? (Politics trivia quiz, everyone.) The problem with Obama coming on strong is that there will be pressure for Mrs. Clinton to pick him has her running mate. Obama has an interesting resume, but he is a lightweight. He would add nothing to the ticket–what states are more likely to go Democratic because he is on the ticket? Clinton would do much better picking someone like Anthony Zinni or Phil Bredesen, the Governor of Tennessee.
#12 – Pere Phil:
Actually, Bush 41 was running things when Reagan was in office.
So, its Bush – Bush – Bush – Clinton – Clinton – Bush – Bush – Clinton.
Here’s an idea. Why doesn’t Chelsea Clinton marry one of Jeb’s sons. He’s going to run for office in the future. They can name their son, Clinton Prescott Bush. He can marry a Kennedy or some other prominent political family. In 40 or 50 years, he can run for president.
This is really scary!!!!! Who is going to save our country?
JESUS is our spiritual hope and RON PAUL is our political hope!!!
-Vincent
Re #17: You cite RealClearPolitics on New Hampshire, but note the trend in poll averages given below the raw numbers. Hillary is declining, Obama is rising. An Obama-Hillary-Edwards finish in Iowa would be a definite boost for Obama, and an Obama-Edwards-Hillary finish—unlikely, but possible—would send her scrambling. Not fatal, but a real blow.
Of course, a hung convention could then turn to Al Gore . . .
Too bad they cannot all lose…
#16 Alta,
I agree. A “Subway Series” bodes ill.
IRNS, I’d love to see conventions on both sides at which the nominees were actually selected, not just crowned. This early campaigning, combined with the poison of the campaign finance “reform” laws which turns all candidates into beggars and potential cash-for-position prostitutes, is really a negative thing for the country. The whole thing, from announcement to election, should take six months maximum. Any longer and it’s a sickness, not a political event.
I might add that a Hillary loss in Iowa might, in the long run, be good . . . for Hillary! If she still wins the nomination after an initial loss, the sense would grow that she had earned it, rather than simply being crowned as the inevitable winner, somehow entitled to the nomination without any real struggle or sacrifice.
#22 Katherine says:
Which is why I’ve been vigorously ignoring the whole thing as much as I can. Ever since we lost our open primaries here in Washington — and since I can’t bring myself to declare as a member of any party — I don’t even get to vote in primaries; so there’s really no point in paying attention until after the nominations. And there’s plenty of time then to decide which candidate of the two I consider least appalling.