I am interested in who you are and where you live, your thoughts on the outcome and the reason, and particularly your information about your own specific region and the elections and referendum questions there. Once again, please, real names STRONGLY preferred if at all possible.
I was just looking at Minnesota’s Senate race–amazingly close.
42% to 42% with 99% of precincts reporting
Norm Coleman Rep. 1,210,740
Al Franken Dem. 1,209,983
I am surprised that the people in Pittsburgh reelected John Murtha after he called them racists and redknecks and defamed our marines by calling them cold blooded murderers.
What stands out for me from the election is the vitriol expressed against Sarah Palin. We saw how the secular culture and popular media reacts against someone who epitomizes what they hate…Christian faith and values, pro life boldness, and genuine love of this country.
During this campaign, we received several calls assuring us that Obama is a life long committed Christian. I hope this is true and will inform his leadership.
Did Ted Stevens really win his Senate seat in Alaska?
(1) I find Senator Obama glib and think his lack of experience in administration will cause him some problems, as will some of the people he has been associated with.
(2) I worked early voting in Asheville, Western NC, where over half the votes were cast in the 19 days from October 6 – November 1. In the largely African-American precinct where I worked Tuesday we had 312 votes in 13 hours, less than half the number cast in the spring primary.
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Here in Pinellas County Florida (St. Pete & Clearwater, basically), Obama led McCain, but Republicans swept all the local/county races (including our congressional race, and state legislative races). I infer that people responded to the personal appeal of Obama, a desire to change the party in the White House, and a lack of enthusiasm for McCain/Palin, rather than any wholesale shift to the policies that the current congressional leadership may hope to promote. The next two years will be interesting, as will the 2010 congressional races.
I’m an Australian so I didn’t vote. However what happens in American politics affects all of us who live on this planet, so I hope you’ll understand the intense interest from foreigners like myself and tolerate my comments here.
Several things stand out in my mind which more than justify the risk that the American electorate took yesterday in choosing President Elect Barack Obama …
1. The war in Iraq (in which Australians have also been complicit) is not a just war. It was never sanctioned by the United Nations and America has now set a dangerous precedent. (Some might argue that the UN is impotent, but until it’s disbanded there’s no just way to ignore its mandates.) The war against the Taliban in Afghanistan has been sanctioned by the UN but it remains unresolved because America (and others) have been side-tracked in Iraq. This is surely because of America’s self-interest in gaining access to dwindling oil and not because of some naive notion of spreading democracy.
2. Poorly regulated capitalism has benefited the wealthy but not the poor. The god of market forces has meant that individual ‘success’ is measured in the size of the pay packet rather than productivity for the common good. Executive salaries relative to the average wage have grown dramatically and the poor are struggling more than ever. Greed, the cause of the current market meltdown, is an inevitable consequence of worshipping the god of unregulated capitalism. The world has also been betting on America’s housing casino, and now we’re all to varying degrees paying the price.
3. Finally, global warming, not the current financial crisis, is the real global threat. America’s refusal to date to seriously engage with other countries in tackling this issue (eg by refusing to sign the Kyoto Protocol) has been profoundly short-sighted.
There was little evidence that McCain was going to navigate a significantly different course than Bush on these issues. I hope an pray that President Obama will be up to the task, it is surely a daunting one.
I noticed that (IIRC) all of the anti-abortion amendments failed. Such a tragedy. Pro-lifers need to take that as their wake up call that just voting pro-life every couple of years is no longer enough. We have to get off our duffs in-between elections and work hard to educate, debate, and change hearts and minds to stop the slaughter.
#2 Perhaps an oversimplification but Murtha’s victory is in large measure related to one word — PORK —. He brings jobs and $$$$ into an economically depressed area. Plus he is pro-life and pro-union.
In Georgia, McCain carried the state. Sen. Chambliss is leading, but the vote has not be finalized, so a run-off is still possible. Not much in local referendums worth reporting. The cheers for Sen. Obama’s victory was accentuated by gun-fire (like that witnessed in the Middle East type celebrations) in some neighborhoods. So, in some Georgia quarters, there is a lot of joy; in others not so much. Me, I’m philosophical this morning and very cautious. I’m also adopting the UK’s tradition, “The king is dead, long live the king.” In other words, the Bush era has passed (the old king), time to support the new king in the spirit of unity and good of the country. This doesn’t mean I agree with Sen. Obama on so many things, but I will give him a chance and hope he does govern from the center and not give into the extreme lefties of his party. But, as Charles Krauthammer (sp?) on Fox News points out, we really don’t know Sen. Obama very well, but we will come to know him during his presidency. Not a particularly comforting thought, but there it is.
BJ Spanos
Fayette County, Georgia
PS – meant to say “the vote has not been finalized” and “in some Atlanta neighborhoods.” I have no information on other Georgia cities.
BJ Spanos
In Vermont, where I voted, we re-elected our Republican Governor and Lieutenant Governor by nearly as wide margins from their closest competitors, respectively, as we preferred for President and Vice-President the Democratic Obama/Biden ticket over McCain/Palin, and our incumbent U.S. House Democrat. This should be further evidence that we Vermonters are not driven by ideology, nor offended by it. We are most interested in intelligent policy vision, personal trustworthiness, and proven effectiveness. We know that secular government is not, nor should be imagined, as religion in action.
It was late when I voted yesterday evening in my rural Georgia precinct. The polling place was not crowded and we did not have a wait (70 percent-plus turnout – many voted early) – the atmosphere was very much what it always is during an election – cheerful, friendly, hopeful. When we came out the door, we were blocked by some white voters cheerfully directing some first-time black voters to the proper polling place for their street address. I came away with the feeling that “we can do this,” whoever is elected, and I still feel that way. We’ll have to see what kind of leader our new president is – like many here, I have concerns, but I had concerns about both candidates. This community went for McCain 56.44 percent to 42.81 percent for Obama, but all was peaceful here in the night and this morning and so far, things are no different than a typical post-presidential election morning. As I work for a newspaper, I know that we already have our first gloating letter (from a white guy in case anyone is wondering) and I’m sure the first complaining letter won’t be far behind. But considering the virulence that filled my email box for months (from both parties), things seem unexpectedly ordinary this morning.
I’m a U.S. citizen serving as a missionary in Panama. At our Holy Eucharist this morning there was much joy in the results of the election in the U.S., and several people said “This is God at work!” I agree!
As I watched John McCain’s concession speech, I wondered where that McCain had wandered during the campaign. Had that McCain appeared between the convention and election day, he might have won my vote. Instead he chose to attach his name to one of the vilest and most reprehensible media campaigns in my memory (I’ve been voting since 1965). Its blatant appeals to xenophobia and McCarthyism and let’s be honest, racism – I live in SW Pennsylvania where a number of McCain’s supporters put signs on their lawns letting everyone know that Obama’s middle name was Hussein – suggested to me that for all his high-sounding rhetoric last night, John McCain was still only a politician.
Having lived through the number of assassinations and attempted assassinations through my 64 years, I noted with some sadness the formidable mirror shields in front of the Grant Park stage. I pray that poisoned atmosphere of politics in this country will not lead another hater to attempt to put a presidential notch on his gun.
Finally, I wonder what all those Catholic bishops who were threatening people who voted for “pro-choice” candidates with damnation and excommunication are thinking this morning: an assisted suicide referendum passes in Washington, attempts to pass amendments severely limiting unfettered access to abortion fail – though apparently some states were able to stand firm against the gay agenda. The Catholic hierarchy and evangelical leaders might want to reconsider alternative ways of effectively getting their message across. The methods of the Church triumphant, especially rather crude attempts to threaten and intimidate people they’re hoping to influence, just don’t work. They never did.
Dan (#14), I agree. I voted for McCain in the 2000 primaries and even though I leaned toward Obama earlier this year I would have been quite happy with a McCain win at that time.
But over the course of the campaign he became more partisan, more divisive, and too reliant on scaring people then talking about his bi-partisan accomplishments. If he had run on campaign finance reform, immigration, etc. I believe he would have been more successful with moderate and left-leaning Republicans and Independets like me.
#2 — I think the Sarah-hate came not because of her Christianity or pro-life policies (you didn’t see the same level of antipathy toward Huckabee, for example) but because she came across as inexperienced and unknowledgeable about national and international politics. Obama is inexperienced, but he knows how the federal government works and interviews well. Palin had a couple of very poor interviews on national TV and made a couple of other gaffes in interviews, and once that happened there wasn’t much she could do to shake the image. I’m hopeful that during the next four years she can earn the ability to be taken more seriously.
I also noticed that all the abortion restriction laws (that I’ve heard about) failed, but the heterosexual-marriage-only amendments seem to have passed (with California still pending).
I am from Woodford County, Kentucky. I think the election was an unmitigated disaster for the republic. President-elect Obama is an empty suit, a creation of the mainstream media, and his policies appear to be uniformly hard Left. I believe we will be burdened with higher taxes across the board for working families. I believe his presidency will be aggressively pro-abortion, pro-gay “rights”, pro- gun control, pro-environmental extreemism, pro-“hate” speech laws, and anti-right to work. It will be characterized by political correctness run amok. I am at least consoled somewhat by the fact that of the 120 counties in Kentucky, only 8 went for Obama – and we are a heavily Democratic state – so as the debacle of the next four years unfolds, don’t blame us.
[i] “Finally, I wonder what all those Catholic bishops who were threatening people who voted for “pro-choice†candidates with damnation and excommunication are thinking this morning: an assisted suicide referendum passes in Washington, attempts to pass amendments severely limiting unfettered access to abortion fail – though apparently some states were able to stand firm against the gay agenda. The Catholic hierarchy and evangelical leaders might want to reconsider alternative ways of effectively getting their message across. The methods of the Church triumphant, especially rather crude attempts to threaten and intimidate people they’re hoping to influence, just don’t work. They never did.” [/i]
I’m a Catholic, and at no point was I ‘threatened’ with damnation or excommunication. I was exhorted, through pastoral letters and diocesan newspaper editorials, to vote my conscience, but to remember that the Catholic Church teaches that life is the primary value. This sort of hyperbole is unhelpful, uncharitable, and sad.
In his concession speech, when McCain mentioned Obama, some of the crowd booed mightily. In his victory speech, when Obama mentioned McCain, most of the crowd clapped and cheered. That kind of sums it all up, I’d say.
#18, yeah, it’s easy for the victorious to be magnanimous and hard for the losers to accept defeat. Not sure what it ‘proves’.
Why did the South Dakota abortion law go down to defeat?
I’m just glad the Republicans spent the past eight years handing the Executive Branch so many unchecked powers now that the Democrats are going to be running the show. Thanks a lot. Thanks a whole ******* lot. Oh, and thanks for the past eight years of immigration policy as well. I’m sure the first thing everybody’s asking once they cross the Rio Grande is how they register to vote Republican.
There’s something I’ve been wondering.
Sarah Palin [url=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/rel_palin_dobson]said[/url] that she was “putting this in God’s hands,†and that she would “know … that the right thing for America will be done at the end of the day on Nov. 4.†I’ve seen similar comments in other places from other evangelicals – that they were praying about the election, that they trusted in God and believed His will would be done, etc.
Considering the politics of the people who made these comments, I wonder if they will believe that God’s will [i]was[/i] done? Or will they believe His will was somehow thwarted?
Obviously, people who believe in God tend to think that their own conceptions of God’s plan are correct. (After all, if you believe in an omnipotent God, it’s rather difficult to say that you want one thing while simultaneously acknowledging that God wants the opposite.)
So, will people who said they were leaving this in God’s hands – and who really didn’t want Obama to win – consider the possibility that they might have misunderstood God’s plan?
In the past, like everyone, I have found myself in situations where I thought I had a good understanding of what God wanted me to do, but things really didn’t turn out the way I expected; at those times, I have considered the possibility that my initial assumptions were incorrect, and on occasion I’ve even determined that I [i]was[/i] incorrect. (Not always. Sometimes, I’ve determined that a little adversity was also part of God’s plan.)
By the way, I don’t mean to offend anyone with this question – and I hope I haven’t. Honestly, I’m just curious.
David Turney, San Diego CA.
http://sandiegoanglicans.com
Grieved and baffled that proposition 8 (marriage) is passing while proposition 4 (parental notification) is losing. Prop 4 should have been a no-brainer for the traditionalists/conservatives who voted for traditional marriage.
Remember the Republican Nuclear Option? Under this theory, jointly developed by the Bush Administration and Senate Republicans, a simple majority vote in the Senate suffices to confirm a presidential appointee for a lifelong term on the Supreme Court or any other federal court.
The Nuclear Option has four easy steps: First, interrupt the filibuster with a point of order asserting that the Senate filibuster rule is unconstitutional. Second, have the vice president uphold the point of order. Third, have at least half of the senators present sustain the VP’s ruling. (If, for example, 48 senators vote for the Nuclear Option and 48 vote against, the VP can break the tie in his own favor.) Fourth, confirm the nominee by a simple majority, with the VP breaking any tie.
Leading Republicans embraced this theory. More than a few conservative commenters on Stand Firm and T19 did the same.
These self-proclaimed “strict constructionists” conveniently brushed aside the constitutional provision under which “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings” (art. I, § 5, cl. 2). Why let principle get in the way of power, eh?
So what would these politicians and commenters say now if the tables were turned—if Democrats sought to use the Nuclear Option to fill vacant judgeships by simple, Biden-assisted majority?
Don’t expect consistency of principle.
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The Nuclear Option (like warrantless surveillance and extrajudicial torture and imprisonment) raises fundamental questions about the RULE OF LAW.
If the constitution authorizes the Nuclear Option when you hold power, doesn’t it still authorize the Nuclear Option after you lose power? That’s the rule of law.
How ironic that Stand Firm and T19 supporters of the Nuclear Option would criticize BeerKat and other ECUSA revisionists for bending rules to suit her arbitrary will and power.
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For the record, I opposed the Nuclear Option in 2005 and I oppose it still, for exactly the same reasons.
[blockquote]Obviously, people who believe in God tend to think that their own conceptions of God’s plan are correct. [/blockquote]
This is not obvious to me at all. Indeed, it is a hackneyed strawman akin to ‘most atheists are angry at their fathers.’
For me, personally, nearly all the theists I know are very humble in their estimation of their own sense of right compared to God’s righteousness.
I see a lot of parallels between the next president and the current TEC PB. For the bylaws of TEC and traditional faith, substitute the Constitution. President-elect Obama has expressed that the Constitution is an antique document, not suited for modern realities, and needs to be changed by appropriate legislative action if possible, by judicial edicts if not, but ignored when necessary. He has a cadre of trusted advisors and mentors with the same view, and compliant legislative bodies, though some few will fight the good fight.
APB,
I don’t recall John McCain urging strict construction and minarchism when Campaign Finance Reform and the Orwellian-titled PATRIOT Act were on the table.
Both McCain and Obama are basically social democrats with different constituencies. Only Ron Paul, with his consistent and principled stand for limited government, fiscal responsibility and state sovereignty presented an intellectually consistent opposition to Obama and clean break with the failed policies of the Bush administration. For the Old Right, it is going to be a long four years telling the neo-conservatives we told them so.
#22 Although I am disheartened by Obama’s win, I do believe God had something to do with it. God is up to something, though it’s not clear to me now. Perhaps He will be working to change Obama’s view on abortion.
Re the results in my area (Pittsburgh), my whole office, except me, is currently having a champagne celebration of Obama’s victory. I am not a happy camper.
#17 may believe that bishops did not “threaten” people who voted for “pro-choice” candidates but when they refuse communion to political candidates and announce that they are “excommunicated” and inform voters that anyone who votes for a “pro-choice” is guilty of a “grievous sin”, they are threaten the eternal salvation of those voters and candidates. At least that’s what I learned in my 16 years of a Catholic education.
Here in Michigan Obama had LARGE coat-tails.
Repub. congressman and judges were knocked out, and even in my otherwise Republican State House district, a democrat won. In my county (Wayne County) which includes Detroit, Obama won over 70% of the votes.
On an interesting personal note, if VP elect Biden’s son is named his replacement as Senator from Delaware (he is the State Attorney General) after he gets back from Iraq (JAG Corps), I will have a contemporary Fraternity Brother in the Senate (we were in Psi Upsilon at the University of Pennsylvania – he pledged when I was a senior).
Huckabee/Palin 2012?
Helen, my wife is in the same situation. Her company has a lot of European Socialists (self described, they’re from Europe and voted Socialist at home) who are tickled pink. On the other end, most of my mother’s office came to work this morning dressed in black for mourning.
My greatest sadness is that the Grant Park Celebration here in Chicago should of been for the Cubbies. Oh, well, on to next year.
I live in Virginia, on the relatively “red” edge of a county that went strongly for Obama. I don’t think anyone here was surprised – our demographics have changed significantly, and with security fading as an immediate issue the Republican brand has weakened enormously in the ‘burbs. The Senate election (D Warner beats R Gilmore) was no surprise. Warner was a popular governor, enjoyed success in business, and largely avoided hard-edged partisanship. Gilmore is disliked by most people in his own party.
I am very nervous. I expect a hard jolt to the left on some social issues.. namely, rollback of restrictions on abortion and extensive taxpayer funding for it. Obama’s tax policy also raises concerns… he’s clearly an aggressive redistributor, often giving to those who pay nothing, and his hurdle for who doesn’t have to worry under his tax plan keeps dropping. It was $250K, then Biden dropped it to $150K… I expect we settle around $100K. Also, only those who can take advantage of Obama’s scheme of credits will be made whole for increases in the social security tax.
In a nutshell, I don’t know how bad it will be. It could be a minor shift if Obama governs center-left and corrales the crazies in Pelosi’s crew. If Obama moves aggressively left, folks like myself will spend more time playing defense and insulating our families than innovating or investing for the future. A truly leftist Obama would also provoke stirrings of the very radical anti-state libertarian types, who have been more or less marginalized since 9-11. There’s a potent racial angle, too.
So I hope for the best, but prepare for the worst.
I live in NJ. I am a “values” voter so you know how I voted. However, I rejoice in one thing about the election, namely that we finally got to the point where a person of color could be elected to the highest office in the land. I don’t think he was the best candidate and I expect his election will be detrimental to our economy and to our national security but America can be proud that it has put to rest one more vestige of prejudice in our society. Now if we would only inculcate moral values to go along with that progress, we might get somewhere.
I live in Ohio and I voted third party in the presidential race. My primary reason is that neither candidate’s economic policy addressed the real economic problem of overspending by the government. The path of both would be to bankrupt the country (if it is not already) without making the hard decisions of either raising taxes to the point that government revenue equals government spending or cutting spending to equal revenue. The former policy would be an economic disaster and the latter would be a political disaster in a nation where we expect the government to solve all our problems.
My prayer is that Mr. Obama’s presidency will be successful under the providence of God. My concern is that with all the hype he created and promises he made, not fulfilling either is a real possiblility and potential tragedy for the newly enthused voter base.
I hear in so many of you that “God is doing something…” yes, He is,
just like He did in TEC. He moved mightily. And made it easy to leave the church I had grown up in. This election will only take the veil off so that ALL will be able to see the liberals agenda.
bl
This is a great and historic election and I am elated. It is reassuring that the American voting public can make this statement clear and loud for all the world to see.
Something I just noticed on the BBC online newspage: Second-to-top billing, after the news of Obama’s election, is “Russia to move missiles to Baltic.” (Sorry if I didn’t quote it quite right.) Interesting that Russia makes this aggressive move immediately upon news of the new US President. Would they have made the same move if McCain had been elected?
The most striking thing to me is that referenda against homosexual marriage were consistently (if not overwhelmingly) successful, but referenda against abortion were not. Furthermore, the more religious the latter looked, the worse they did (e.g. Colorado’s “life at conception” vote).
The final words of Tikhon (now St. Tikhon) then Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia before his repose in 1925: “The night will be very long and very dark.” Ed Oppermann
“This election will only take the veil off so that ALL will be able to see the liberals agenda.”
#36 – And what would that agenda be? Taxpayer bailouts for purely private interests? Expanded entitlement spending? Restrictions on grassroots political activism? Federalization of education? Misguided Wilsonian crusades? Importing a left-leaning electorate through immigration policy?
All here, and all courtesy of Dubya and John “Maverick” McCain.
Rick Wood
I live in Indiana, but am in Tokyo this week, watching the results come in during my meetings yesterday. Currently we attend a Vineyard Church (very evangelical, baptizing 100 adults about every 6 weeks).
I voted for McCain, but now that it is all over, I am very hopeful for Obama. Since our success as a nation is tied directly to his success, I cannot hope for anything but success and an administration that is free of scandal and the awful junk we have seen over the past 18 years.
Statmann, such a comparison of Obama to Joseph Stalin is hyperbolic to the point of slander. I cannot see the equivalence between the president-elect and one of history’s greatest mass murderers.
Guffey, Colorado. Mostly I see the election results as further proof that we are a nation under the judgment of Almighty God. Okay, I’ve been reading the OT prophets and noting the parallels between the USA ancient Israel/Judah. My task, as I see it, is to “pray for the peace of the city for in its peace is my peace.” Closer to home I pray for the grace to keep my big mouth shut; I am a conservative in a liberal dominated household.
Wingate: I did not mention either Obama nor Stalin. YOU did. The slander is all yours. Statmann
Statmann, the sainted Tikhon was writing this a year after the death of Lenin. I will grant that perhaps you did not realize the comparison you were making; however, the ellipsis of the names did no more than convert a bold statement into a implication. At any rate, I stand by my judgment that comparison of our future to that of Russians of the period is preposterous.
Wingate: this is a real stretch.
Wingate: I am fully aware of the comparison that I was making and it had nothing to with PERSONS. I have always had a deep seated fear of a one-party government…. and now we will have one. I also speculate that it will be a long time before we will not have one. We have had enough emotion in this past campaign and too little thinking. Your attack on me was another unfortunate example.
Statmann
The one plus this election should have for conservative Republicans is to free us to go RINO hunting and slaughter them wherever we find them. It is time to end this cold war within the party and drive them out. They have been the enemies of conservatism for decades and now have succeeded in ruining the party.
Reagan was able to rein them in, but they fought back under Bush senior and Bob Dole. W seemed more elusive and a hybrid between true conservatism and Rinoism. He seemed tolerable. 9/11 awoke him to the only long term vision of policy, and one compatible to conservative values. But as time went on his utter lack of clear governmental principles and contempt for the health of the movement shone through and destroyed the enthusiasm of the base as well as the support of the nation. I thought Clinton succeeded personally at the expense of his party. Bush has outdone him in spades in destroying his own party, and the vacuum of leadership he engendered allowed a man even more ambivalent toward conservative ideals than he to take the nomination and slide into miserable defeat.
No more Bushes. That is clear. No more moderates. No more shlubs in Republican clothing who don’t know what they believe or who don’t have a coherent oppositional message to what is now the reigning ideology of the Democratic party, a party far more united than the Republicans.
The next question, Chris, is HOW do we get true conservatives nominated? We had one maybe two in the line-up this time and who got the nomination? McCain! Hardly a conservative.
After losing this big two elections in a row and freed of the albatross of Bush it should be easier for someone to rise up and lead. But events also will direct things. If the war with Islamism gets ugly we could see Santorum come back as a Churchill from the wilderness.
Who knows? It’s impossible to plan these things. But I like Ann Coulter’s idea: go after all the Republicans that supported McCain. Invalidate them as leaders or spokesmen for the party. We need to shrink the tent in the leadership circle.
Statmann,
Orthodox by any chance?
My priest went to St. Tikhon’s Seminary.
BTW, I agree on the long dark night…..some complain about the casualties in Iraq when we kill 4,000 babies a day in this country…50 million since Roe v Wade. Dark days ahead, perhaps in judgement for this country’s spiral into depravity and sin. Pray for national repentance and revival.
Peace
I guess I don’t see the Dems as that much more united. Indeed, the exit polling for the various anti-homosexual marriage initiatives shows they have a serious problem: Latinos don’t like homosexual marriage, and blacks really don’t like it. Then there are the Blue Dogs, who aren’t going to sign onto the socialism that people keep going on about. As far as any Euro-leftist programs are concerned, I don’t think Obama is going to have traction. He has a mandate now to deal with the economy and to not be Bush, whatever the latter means.
Meanwhile, the RINO problem is going to be whether the neocons get a say as to who to purge. In the short run, leaving the neos in control is going to keep Reps as the party of Dubya, which is exactly what they need to stop being if they ever want the middle back. (Either that, or hope for a similarly large screwup from Obama.)
Guffey, CO: I’ve been reflecting on yesterday’s experience: I drove in to Colorado Springs and stopped back by Woodland Park to do some shopping. The most striking thing that I noticed was “the elephant in the livingroom” phenomenon; not one person I talked with, not even my friends, ever once mentioned the outcome of the presidential election, nor did I. I did not even “overhear” any mention of the ourcome or of the president elect. This is most unusual, following past elections the name of the new president elect was first mention by everyone I met! Can anyone out there throw a bit of light on this?
On the local level voters approved a $100 limit for gambling in Cripple Creek. The former $5.00 limit, along with credit card gambling, has left many people in the area destitute; what will the higher limit do? Bring down people who have a little more to begin with? There is also the fear that the “Big Boys” (read Mafia) will be moving in…
New Orthodox: Yes, I am Antiochian. Had a priest from St. Tikhon. He was and is a good and devout priest. Thank you for asking. Statmann
Actually, the Republicans don’t need ‘neo-cons’, they need true Reagan conservatives to step up and take the party back from the RINOs.
A recent poll showed a very small minority who thinks “the Republican Party is too conservative”.
#57 and others:
I’m a liberal and vote Democrat more often than not. But if the faction of the Republican party that actually BELIEVES in fiscal responsibility and small government — rather than just talks about it — were to take over the party, then I would feel a whole lot less disgruntled when the White House eventually goes back to the other side.
Ross, no argument. We thought that this was what we were getting with the most recent Rep. majority, but they turned out to be just the opposite.
Jim, you’re right about the neocons. They are essentially democrats wo have become conservative on fiscal and foreign policy issues. But they generally lack the philosophical grounding about the need for small and restrained government that true conservatives.
We don’t need no more stinkin big government conservatives. It’s like “white” magic. There is no such thing.
“With malice toward none; with charity for all; with firmness in the right, as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation’s wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow, and his orphan—to do all which may achieve and cherish a just, and a lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations.”
Abraham Lincoln