Unfortunately, the graduate’s blog entry is not clarifying but is instead rather vague — which is certainly his right.
But it does nothing to explain why this occurred: [blockquote]”I have received notice that the Rt. Rev. Jon Bruno, Episcopal Bishop of Los Angeles, will not ordain me as a priest in his diocese. The deciding factor (according to his letter) was my Candidacy interviews where the diocesan Commission on Ministry found my beliefs and practices incompatible with those of the diocese. The CoM made a negative report and the bishop has embraced their consensus.”[/blockquote]
#1, #5 – I know of a Bishop that studied at Nashotah House before he was ordained to the Priesthood. He chose to go their because of the conservative teachers and curriculum that were being taught at the time. I believe Nashotah House still teaches and preaches the Lord Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior to this day. This alone would make any Nashotah House graduate unsuitable for the LA Diocese.
Thanks for the link, #4, and I found this quote particularly worth mentioning:
[blockquote] Instead of wasting electrons on me, maybe you could go tell someone about the atoning work of Jesus Christ through his incarnation, death, and resurrection. An awful lot still don’t know about this.
Have I mentioned my explicit personal wish that this matter be treated with charity?[/blockquote]
This is a very humble, charitable response and I am inclined to listen to him for that by not trying to blame this on politics in the current situation in his diocese or elsewhere.
I am a member of Integrity and am an Affirming Catholic. I think it is disgraceful, shameful and deplorable in every way that this aspirant has been rejected for ministry based on his orthodoxy. Nashotah House is one of the very finest seminaries in the Episcopal Church. Shame on Bishop Bruno, thank God for the magnanimity of good men like Bishop Iker.
In case those in “safe” dioceses had any need for clarity – eventually your diocese will no longer be safe. Then, your parish will no longer be safe because you will not be able to get the person you need to lead you.
The fog is clearing thanks to those like Bishop Bruno, and the view is not too pretty.
The headline is misleading as well. The postulant for holy orders was not given candidacy for holy orders at this time. It is not over for him, as the Bishop has released him as a postulant and another Bishop can pick him up. Charitible.
What do you all think of the reverse? An assistant who graduated from an admittedly liberal seminary, but whose personal theology is nonetheless very orthodox and gets the cold shoulder from the Common Cause partner of which he is a member regarding his ordination?
RE: “I think it is disgraceful, shameful and deplorable in every way that this aspirant has been rejected for ministry based on his orthodoxy.”
Honestly, though, archangelica, we don’t know that. All that we know is that “I have received notice that the Rt. Rev. Jon Bruno, Episcopal Bishop of Los Angeles, will not ordain me as a priest in his diocese. The deciding factor (according to his letter) was my Candidacy interviews where the diocesan Commission on Ministry found my beliefs and practices incompatible with those of the diocese. The CoM made a negative report and the bishop has embraced their consensus.â€
Kendall, do you know what this is all about? Is it really liberal ver sus conservative? Larry
Remember: In The Episcopal Church, ALL are WELCOME!
Ireneaus, all are welcome…as long as they are neither: conservative, orthodox, or evangelical.
Chip+
Perhaps a look at this graduate’s blog entry on the subject is in order: http://www.unbridledwarhorse.com/
Unfortunately, the graduate’s blog entry is not clarifying but is instead rather vague — which is certainly his right.
But it does nothing to explain why this occurred: [blockquote]”I have received notice that the Rt. Rev. Jon Bruno, Episcopal Bishop of Los Angeles, will not ordain me as a priest in his diocese. The deciding factor (according to his letter) was my Candidacy interviews where the diocesan Commission on Ministry found my beliefs and practices incompatible with those of the diocese. The CoM made a negative report and the bishop has embraced their consensus.”[/blockquote]
It appears unlikely that we will ever know.
#1, #5 – I know of a Bishop that studied at Nashotah House before he was ordained to the Priesthood. He chose to go their because of the conservative teachers and curriculum that were being taught at the time. I believe Nashotah House still teaches and preaches the Lord Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior to this day. This alone would make any Nashotah House graduate unsuitable for the LA Diocese.
Thanks for the link, #4, and I found this quote particularly worth mentioning:
[blockquote] Instead of wasting electrons on me, maybe you could go tell someone about the atoning work of Jesus Christ through his incarnation, death, and resurrection. An awful lot still don’t know about this.
Have I mentioned my explicit personal wish that this matter be treated with charity?[/blockquote]
This is a very humble, charitable response and I am inclined to listen to him for that by not trying to blame this on politics in the current situation in his diocese or elsewhere.
I am a member of Integrity and am an Affirming Catholic. I think it is disgraceful, shameful and deplorable in every way that this aspirant has been rejected for ministry based on his orthodoxy. Nashotah House is one of the very finest seminaries in the Episcopal Church. Shame on Bishop Bruno, thank God for the magnanimity of good men like Bishop Iker.
In case those in “safe” dioceses had any need for clarity – eventually your diocese will no longer be safe. Then, your parish will no longer be safe because you will not be able to get the person you need to lead you.
The fog is clearing thanks to those like Bishop Bruno, and the view is not too pretty.
The headline is misleading as well. The postulant for holy orders was not given candidacy for holy orders at this time. It is not over for him, as the Bishop has released him as a postulant and another Bishop can pick him up. Charitible.
What do you all think of the reverse? An assistant who graduated from an admittedly liberal seminary, but whose personal theology is nonetheless very orthodox and gets the cold shoulder from the Common Cause partner of which he is a member regarding his ordination?
RE: “I think it is disgraceful, shameful and deplorable in every way that this aspirant has been rejected for ministry based on his orthodoxy.”
Honestly, though, archangelica, we don’t know that. All that we know is that “I have received notice that the Rt. Rev. Jon Bruno, Episcopal Bishop of Los Angeles, will not ordain me as a priest in his diocese. The deciding factor (according to his letter) was my Candidacy interviews where the diocesan Commission on Ministry found my beliefs and practices incompatible with those of the diocese. The CoM made a negative report and the bishop has embraced their consensus.â€
All, I just checked with Kendall. He was unaware of the grad’s blog entry which requested that folks not speculate on his situation.
Kendall’s decided to take this post down. I’ll be doing so in 10 -15 minutes. Just wanted the current commenters to know why.