I find this one particularly disturbing: “Question about bps. turning this into marriage rite. Bp. Smith defers to Ely. Will be adaptation in states with marriage equality.” I believe that means that the bishops are considering (intending?) that the rite will be modified to a marriage rite in those states that allow same-sex marriages. I don’t know that such is in the text of the proposed rite, and seems to suggest that each diocese can do what they want with prayer book revisions.
“Sauls: 50 years ago, TEC allowed theological exception so divorced people could remarry. This is the same.” I wonder if he is right? I think the provisions for allowing divorced persons to remarry under certain circumstances were better analyzed and discussed, but that doesn’t mean that they were better decided.
#3 Also, here we learn that a supermajority was not needed anyway. It isn’t a trial rite and so is immune from Art. X. TEC now has rites they just make up, assure they can be adapted as you indicate in #1, sit alongside BCP but don’t require anything except a vote, and Bishops get to choose (for now). So much for a church with Common Prayer. The BCP is now as good as a blank etch-a-sketch.
Thanks for linking this Kendall. Very helpful tweeting from Jim Naughton for someone like me who is just glancing in and trying to get a sense of what happened and snippets of what various bishops said.
Anyone else note his very disparaging comment about +Mark Lawrence – something about “being lost in the high sierra” ???? wonder what on earth THAT snarky comment was about?! Sad. Truly sad.
I find this one particularly disturbing: “Question about bps. turning this into marriage rite. Bp. Smith defers to Ely. Will be adaptation in states with marriage equality.” I believe that means that the bishops are considering (intending?) that the rite will be modified to a marriage rite in those states that allow same-sex marriages. I don’t know that such is in the text of the proposed rite, and seems to suggest that each diocese can do what they want with prayer book revisions.
“Sauls: 50 years ago, TEC allowed theological exception so divorced people could remarry. This is the same.” I wonder if he is right? I think the provisions for allowing divorced persons to remarry under certain circumstances were better analyzed and discussed, but that doesn’t mean that they were better decided.
#3 Also, here we learn that a supermajority was not needed anyway. It isn’t a trial rite and so is immune from Art. X. TEC now has rites they just make up, assure they can be adapted as you indicate in #1, sit alongside BCP but don’t require anything except a vote, and Bishops get to choose (for now). So much for a church with Common Prayer. The BCP is now as good as a blank etch-a-sketch.
Thanks for linking this Kendall. Very helpful tweeting from Jim Naughton for someone like me who is just glancing in and trying to get a sense of what happened and snippets of what various bishops said.
Anyone else note his very disparaging comment about +Mark Lawrence – something about “being lost in the high sierra” ???? wonder what on earth THAT snarky comment was about?! Sad. Truly sad.
“PB: we act in humility” Ain’t shovels enough in this world to deal with that statement, for true humility would not bring anyone to this point.