“I wanted to leave the Episcopal Church five or more years ago but believed then that having a Diocese to care for it would be harmful to them,” Bishop Kelshaw told The Church of England Newspaper.
“Frankly I have not taken Holy Communion in the House of Bishops in about thirteen of the fifteen years I was in there because I did not consider myself in fellowship due to the pronouncements they were making concerning themselves and the church,” he said.
Bishop Kelshaw stated that he will become “Bishop in Resident” at St. James, Newport Beach, California. St. James quit the diocese of Los Angeles in 2004 to join the Church of Uganda and is currently involved in litigation with the diocese. Being an “Episcopal” bishop while serving the Church of Uganda congregation in California “would create difficulties” in the litigation he noted.
“My ministry will be here in the US,” he said, and “hopefully [be] away from the present punitive, tyrannical, oversight” of the Episcopal Church.
At some point, this trickle will become a flood – of the good kind.
[blockquote]“For such a small Province in Anglicanism it [ECUSA] has attracted far too much attention. In fact, I am not at all convinced it has ever been Anglican?†he remarked.[/blockquote]
Can we have an AMEN, brothers and sisters?
“Frankly I have not taken Holy Communion in the House of Bishops in about thirteen of the fifteen years I was in there…”
Talk about a broken house! Does anyone know who and how many bishops refuse to Commune with the their fellow bishops?
Gee whiz, +Terence. Tell us how you really feel!
Robroy: “Province?” WHAT “province?” Do you mean the Episcopal “Quasi-Church?”
To add to RobRoy’s comment regarding,
” “For such a small Province in Anglicanism it has attracted far too much attention. In fact, I am not at all convinced it has ever been Anglican?†he remarked.”
In fact, ECUSA ceases to be episcopal in governance at the diocesan level. ECUSA’s General Convention is much more like a Congregational or even a Baptist gathering, than it is an episcopal event.
General Convention is not a synod where senior clergy, advised by competent theologians, make critical decisions about matters regarding “the Faith once given.”
Instead, it is an assembly where the vote of the least competent member has the same measure as that of the most theologically ‘formed’ and ‘Spiritually guided.’
#6, we all know why ECUSA has attracted far too much attention. It’s all about the Benjamins….:(
(that’s slang for $100 bills, on which Benjamin Franklin appears)
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! (I know it’s Lent, but I couldn’t help myself.)This is great news! Welcome back to St. James Newport Beach Bishop Terry.
a steady flood would be wonderful- but we need to ensure the emerging church is sound. I am very worried that if we allow WO in the new church- the cancer has crept accross. nd the new will be no more orhodox than the old
Bishop Kelshaw will surely be welcomed and will feel quit at home at St. James Newport Beach.
Keith, I was unaware that +Terry had a past history with St. James?
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So no communion for years in the HOB. That’s a good start, but even with this small hop he still *is* in communion with them. The only way to not be is to *not* be. Sad to have to explain that to a bishop.
I fear that all this re-shuffling of Bishops will be an attempt at a quick fix. We’ll toss aside the heretics, and try to restart the Anglican Communion’s version of Christendom.
We’ll fail, unless we learn how to make disciples.
And we’ll fail at that, unless we become disciples ourselves.
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“So no communion for years in the HOB. That’s a good start, but even with this small hop he still *is* in communion with them. The only way to not be is to *not* be. Sad to have to explain that to a bishop.”
I frankly don’t see the logic there. He doesn’t take communion with them, he isn’t in communion with them.
St. Cyprian, I assume the Anglicans he is fleeing to are in communion, tho not agreeing? That is, all of them are in communion with Canterbury, so it is just keeping the problem at arm’s length.
At this point it’s just a gesture, not a real break. I sympathize with the gesture but it postpones real decisions.
Br_er Rabbit, Bishop Terry was the leader at my first Men’s Weekend back in 2002. He spoke of the importance of growing in holiness and taught from the book of Daniel. I haven’t missed a Men’s Weekend since. btw Rolin, are you coming out in May for our Anglican Men’s Weekend lead by Archbishop Henry Orombi with Bp. John Guernsey, Bp. David Anderson, and Bp. Robinson Cavalcanti of Recife? Your friend Kevin Kallsen from Anglican TV will be flying out to attend.
Also, Bp. Terry was guest preacher week before last at St. James.
SaintCyprian, . . . In other words, [according to nwlayman] one cannot be a member of the Anglican Communion without being “in communion†with TEC.
I believe that would be called in some circles tertiary separation—a particular theology that I am familiar with from certain separatist American Protestant sects springing from the early 1900s. Seems to have spread to a few other areas of Christianity.
Sarah, I assume Bishops of the Church of Uganda and KJS can go to Lambeth, so if (big if) they are both at a eucharist with Rowan Williams it’s be hard to say they’re out of communion. The best way to be “out” of communion is to really leave it. No one doubts that or asks follow up questions.