Worrying results for conservatives. Particularly striking is the fact that young clergy are more liberal than older clergy.
“Younger clergy are significantly more likely to support sameâ€sex marriage than older clergy. Among clergy under the age of 40, close to half (45%) say gay couples should be allowed to marry, compared to approximately oneâ€third of clergy 40 and older.”
This is a line-up of apostate denominations whose clergy, church agencies and laity are indoctrinated in and committed to a prograssive pantheistic social agenda-tainted false gospel that uses Christ’s name in vain.
These denominations do not teach Christ’s mandate that we must be reborn into the kingdom of heaven and family of God (John 3:3). They are circumcised of heart, eye, ear, tongue. Jesus is not Lord, and they are not walking in the Holy Spirit nor disciples of Christ. They operate in the flesh, the natural mind and are dangerously syncretistic, willing to abdicate the faith, mesh Christianity with islam, etc. and socialism to foster their vision and concepts of justice and inclusion. They are willing to serve the Eucharist to the unbaptised, non-believers and unrepentant back-slidden believers.
They do not preach or teach the Gospel of redemption because they have not partaken of it.
I must say I am interested in the fact that the largest protestant denomination in the country (Southern Baptists) is completely not represented in the survey. They have the American Baptists, but not the Southern baptists. I think if you factored in the Southern Baptists, the political and social results are going to come out completely differently.
This study does not consider the Southern Baptists to be “Mainline.” I suppose the author would call the SBC “Evangelical.” You could argue that, but without the SBC, what the study basically shows me is that clergy of the liberal Protestant denominations are mostly white, male and liberal.
Additionally, I find it ironic that while sexual morality fell somewhere in the middle of “speaking out on issues,” it’s practical application of sex education was dead last. Particularly interesting to me since it seems to relate so strongly to other highly ranked issues – hunger & poverty, marriage & family issues, race relations, alcohol & drug abuse, LGTB issues, porn, and abortion. Though, I suppose it’s easier to address morality than the practical application of it.
On page 22, 87% of Episcopal clergy along with the majority of other “mainline” protestant clergy believe the government should do more to solve social problems.
Here’s why so many of these mainline clergy stake out un-Biblical positions on abortion and same-sex marriage: they don’t believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. The more they don’t believe it, the more extreme liberal their positions. For example, only 3% of Episcopal clergy “strongly agree” that the Bible is inerrant. When you believe the Bible is riddled with errors you can pretty much just ignore it in favor of the left wing political culture.
9, and the follow on is that what is preached in nothing more than the personal opinion of the preacher. Why should that have any more weight than the editorial page of the local paper? Sunday golf is looking better and better, and I hate golf.
I do suppose the Southern Baptists could be considered Evangelical as opposed to mainline protestant, but I ran that by some Southern Baptist ministerial friends of mine and none of them were particularly thrilled as not being under the “mainline” descriptor.
On the other end of the spectrum, I was equally amused with the fact that the study had no issue with lumping the Episcopal church, however, under mainline protestant. For us in the Anglo-catholic end of the Anglican church, I would hope we aren’t simply another nondescript American Protestant denomination.
I also admit I was a little skeptical with the terminology that seems to be used in the study. It kept referring to inerrancy of scripture, but as far as I could tell, it never really defined what exactly they meant by that, and that is a really loaded phrase.
I’d be interested in how people in the study interpreted that. I imagine Episcopal clergy read it and interpreted it the inerrancy of the actual text itself. I admit that, yes, I am sure there are a few minor errors in the text because we didn’t find the whole bible under a rock that was laid their by some angel. Fallible men have been copying the text from time immemorial. The bible is thus not completely inerrant in the modern scientific/historical sense of inerrancy.
However, if they mean if there are errors in the core message/revelation of the scriptures, then, no, I would say it is inerrant for it “containeth all things necessary for salvation.” So, I am curious what they meant by inerrant.
Sometimes I think that setting aside some quiet time and having a private chat with God works just as well as going to church on Sunday mornings. It also works well at night.
Worrying results for conservatives. Particularly striking is the fact that young clergy are more liberal than older clergy.
“Younger clergy are significantly more likely to support sameâ€sex marriage than older clergy. Among clergy under the age of 40, close to half (45%) say gay couples should be allowed to marry, compared to approximately oneâ€third of clergy 40 and older.”
This is a line-up of apostate denominations whose clergy, church agencies and laity are indoctrinated in and committed to a prograssive pantheistic social agenda-tainted false gospel that uses Christ’s name in vain.
These denominations do not teach Christ’s mandate that we must be reborn into the kingdom of heaven and family of God (John 3:3). They are circumcised of heart, eye, ear, tongue. Jesus is not Lord, and they are not walking in the Holy Spirit nor disciples of Christ. They operate in the flesh, the natural mind and are dangerously syncretistic, willing to abdicate the faith, mesh Christianity with islam, etc. and socialism to foster their vision and concepts of justice and inclusion. They are willing to serve the Eucharist to the unbaptised, non-believers and unrepentant back-slidden believers.
They do not preach or teach the Gospel of redemption because they have not partaken of it.
‘progressive, not prograssive…though I have had suspicions about the correlation of their futile reprobate thinking (Romans 1:28-32) and ‘grass’
[blockquote]Only 1â€inâ€10 clergy identify as [i]politically[/i] Independent.[/blockquote]
Hurray for us minorities!
I must say I am interested in the fact that the largest protestant denomination in the country (Southern Baptists) is completely not represented in the survey. They have the American Baptists, but not the Southern baptists. I think if you factored in the Southern Baptists, the political and social results are going to come out completely differently.
This study does not consider the Southern Baptists to be “Mainline.” I suppose the author would call the SBC “Evangelical.” You could argue that, but without the SBC, what the study basically shows me is that clergy of the liberal Protestant denominations are mostly white, male and liberal.
What stunning news!
Page 11 is disconcerting, though not surprising.
Additionally, I find it ironic that while sexual morality fell somewhere in the middle of “speaking out on issues,” it’s practical application of sex education was dead last. Particularly interesting to me since it seems to relate so strongly to other highly ranked issues – hunger & poverty, marriage & family issues, race relations, alcohol & drug abuse, LGTB issues, porn, and abortion. Though, I suppose it’s easier to address morality than the practical application of it.
On page 22, 87% of Episcopal clergy along with the majority of other “mainline” protestant clergy believe the government should do more to solve social problems.
That makes it a lot easier for the Church.
Here’s why so many of these mainline clergy stake out un-Biblical positions on abortion and same-sex marriage: they don’t believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. The more they don’t believe it, the more extreme liberal their positions. For example, only 3% of Episcopal clergy “strongly agree” that the Bible is inerrant. When you believe the Bible is riddled with errors you can pretty much just ignore it in favor of the left wing political culture.
9, and the follow on is that what is preached in nothing more than the personal opinion of the preacher. Why should that have any more weight than the editorial page of the local paper? Sunday golf is looking better and better, and I hate golf.
I do suppose the Southern Baptists could be considered Evangelical as opposed to mainline protestant, but I ran that by some Southern Baptist ministerial friends of mine and none of them were particularly thrilled as not being under the “mainline” descriptor.
On the other end of the spectrum, I was equally amused with the fact that the study had no issue with lumping the Episcopal church, however, under mainline protestant. For us in the Anglo-catholic end of the Anglican church, I would hope we aren’t simply another nondescript American Protestant denomination.
I also admit I was a little skeptical with the terminology that seems to be used in the study. It kept referring to inerrancy of scripture, but as far as I could tell, it never really defined what exactly they meant by that, and that is a really loaded phrase.
I’d be interested in how people in the study interpreted that. I imagine Episcopal clergy read it and interpreted it the inerrancy of the actual text itself. I admit that, yes, I am sure there are a few minor errors in the text because we didn’t find the whole bible under a rock that was laid their by some angel. Fallible men have been copying the text from time immemorial. The bible is thus not completely inerrant in the modern scientific/historical sense of inerrancy.
However, if they mean if there are errors in the core message/revelation of the scriptures, then, no, I would say it is inerrant for it “containeth all things necessary for salvation.” So, I am curious what they meant by inerrant.
Sometimes I think that setting aside some quiet time and having a private chat with God works just as well as going to church on Sunday mornings. It also works well at night.