Presiding Bishop of Episcopal Church coming to SC in Jan. 2013 for "Special Convention"

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28 comments on “Presiding Bishop of Episcopal Church coming to SC in Jan. 2013 for "Special Convention"

  1. cssadmirer says:

    January 25-26, 2013 is….

    The date of the 2013 Mere Anglicanism conference!

  2. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    Look who’s back in town again.

  3. Rich Gabrielson says:

    [blockquote]The date of the 2013 Mere Anglicanism conference!
    That occurred to me as well. Somehow I [i]can’t imagine[/i] that it’s just a coincidence. More like a line in the sand that many from outside the DSC will see “up close and personal.” Probably more effective than attempting an injunction against Mere Anglicanism’s use of the buildings?

  4. Rich Gabrielson says:

    [blockquote]… it will be a privilege to share with her firsthand the energy and [b][i]diversity[/i][/b] of the Episcopal Church in the Diocese of South Carolina,” said Hillery Douglas, Chairman of the Steering Committee and Senior Warden of St. Mark’s Episcopal Church in Charleston. (emphasis added.)[/blockquote]
    All aspects of “diversity” are equal but some are more equal than others.

  5. dwstroudmd+ says:

    She will undoubtedly be able to have the opportunity to learn about Anglicanism and, perhaps, be able to differentiate it from Epischorianism, if she attends the conference and pays attention.

  6. Matthew A (formerly mousestalker) says:

    Charleston can be nice in January. Let’s hope she has a lovely time vacationing in the Palmetto state. Perhaps she will take the very popular ghost tour?

  7. TomRightmyer says:

    ‘Twill be interesting to see who shows up for the meeting and how the meeting deals with the question of a quorum. One way might be to decide that those who attend are the whole body.

  8. Terry Tee says:

    Tom’s comment gave me another idea. One possible response might be for all parishes to turn up, to vote to have nothing to do with the proposals of the PB, and then go home. Surely that would be unimpeachably legal and leave TEC with a terrible problem: how to override the express will of the people.

  9. Milton says:

    #8 Great idea! The other terrible problem for TEC after that coup might be to explain KJS’ sudden transformation into a large centipede, ala Screwtape. :snake:

  10. CharlietheCook says:

    By the time the dust settles, less than a third of parishes will have taken this leap *to its final conclusion* with Mark Lawrence. The whole thing is starting to look absurd on its face.

  11. Ralph says:

    It seems unlikely to me that delegates from the true DioSC parishes would be seated, and given voice and vote. It might be worth a try though – if for no other reason than to show the rest of the Anglican Communion how low the TEC leadership will sink.

    This, of course, is a border crossing. But, the TEC Honey Badger leadership don’t care about the Windsor report, centuries of tradition, or the TEC constitution and canons. Having gotten off the hook after Dar Es Salaam, she is (as I’ve observed elsewhere) untouchable, except by God.

    The overlap with Mere Anglicanism is stunning.

  12. CSeitz-ACI says:

    You know, I bet they haven’t a clue that there’s some sort of conference in Charleston. They live in their own world.

  13. Nikolaus says:

    Side note to Pagentmaster… what is the meaning of “KJS to Coventry?”

  14. tjmcmahon says:

    Just out of curiosity, how many folks attend an average Mere Anglicanism conference? Might make an interesting comparison with the TEC “convention.” Perhaps KJS will make attendance mandatory for “loyal” Piskies, so as to get the numbers up over 100.

  15. Luke says:

    12. Nikolaus – Perhaps it has to do with the old, old phrase…”To send someone to Coventry.”
    Paraphrased, from Wiki – [i]To send someone to Coventry is a British idiom meaning to ostracise someone, usually by not talking to them. To have been sent to Coventry is regarded as to be absent. It is often used to punish people who, for example, refuse to join in some action or program, or who is just obnoxious. The Coventry referred to in the phrase is a cathedral city in the West Midlands, England.[/i]

  16. Undergroundpewster says:

    I am confident that one of the locals scheduled the rump convention to coincide with Mere Anglicanism. I plan on attending the real conference, but I would like to invite the PB to visit the Hunley museum with me and learn a little bit about what happens to those who engage in sub-terfuge.

  17. Cennydd13 says:

    I’m sure she’d be “impressed.” Not that she’d really care, of course.

  18. Militaris Artifex says:


    Although I am not Pageantmaster, nor have I any reason to assume what he intended, the one colloquial/metaphoric use of Coventry of which I am aware, and have been for many decades, is in the expression “to send someone to Coventry.” I am completely ignorant of its raison d’être, but, if I am recalling correctly, it means to shun the named someone by ceasing to speak to him, or her. If that is what he intended, he is suggesting that no one recognize KJS’s presence by even so much as speaking to her—a strategy which I would personally find exceedingly easy to employ, however uncharitable it might seem, although that is neither here nor there.

    Only Pageantmaster himself knows what he intended or can affirm that such was his intended meaning in this instance.

    Pax et bonum,
    Keith Töpfer

  19. Militaris Artifex says:

    There is a wikipedia entry at Send to Coventry.

  20. Militaris Artifex says:


    “sub-terfuge,” eh?

    You can be a very punny sort of person when you choose.

    Pax et bonum,
    Keith Töpfer, LCDR, USN, [ret]—(and prior Submarine Sonar Technician First Class (SS))

  21. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    #12 Nikolaus
    I believe Luke and Martial Artist are correct in their sonar readings.

  22. Pageantmaster Ù† says:

    #8 I like Father Tee’s bright idea – yes why not turn up, roll up the Presiding Carpetbagger’s scheme and send her and Bishops Rosencrantz and Guildenstern packing.

  23. Ralph says:

    She who is unjust, knows no shame.

    See Zeph 3:1-4. Then, 1:2-18.

  24. SC blu cat lady says:

    I tend to agree with #11. I too doubt these TEC loyalists have any idea that a conference is happening much less a church conference of Anglicans from around the world. I suggest the PB attend MA conference if no other reason than she will learn about The Person and Work of Christ. Something that seemingly she does not know enough about. It would be quite interesting to see Bishop Nazir-Ali or Bishop Anis engage her in a conversation about Christ.

    As for attending the conference. Well, I guess the delegate from the Diocese of SC *could* attend but I agree with Ralph, #10- I doubt they would be given seat and voice.

    My best guess for the numbers of attendees at Mere Anglicanism would be somewhere around 100 – 150. Perhaps more? I could be totally wrong. Pewster?? What you say?

  25. Undergroundpewster says:

    #23 SC blu cat lady,

    Closer to 200 if trends hold up (I double checked a list of attendees from a previous conference).

  26. MichaelA says:

    [blockquote] “This, of course, is a border crossing. But, the TEC Honey Badger leadership don’t care about the Windsor report, centuries of tradition, or the TEC constitution and canons.” [/blockquote]
    At least she is being consistent. Border crossings were started by liberals. +Spong of Newark back in 1988 ordained a woman as a priest for the Anglican Church in Australia, which at that time had no provision for women priests.

    When asked why he was ordaining an Australian Anglican woman, Bishop Spong replied: “I am quite prepared to meddle in the affairs of another country if it is to break the yoke of oppression by which 50 per cent of the people in the world are not permitted participation in the church”.

    Hence why liberal outrage at outsiders ordaining priests and bishops for service in USA during the noughties was so laughable. KJS may as well be upfront about what is important to her – and it is NOT church order!

  27. SC blu cat lady says:

    Thanks Pewster, I was thinking along similar lines (closer to 200) but did not have a list of attendees from previous years so just trying to remember the crowds from the years (3) we have attended.

  28. tjmcmahon says:

    I might suggest that the most effective demonstration would be for as many people as possible to show up for Mere Anglicanism, or at least attend the keynote address. And try to get a TV camera in, to show St. Philip’s (IIRC) filled to capacity, with folks lined up outside the doors.

    You can bet that the KJS sycophants will bus people in rainbow Tshirts from 500 miles if they have to so the PB will have an audience. And for the next few Sundays after, to inflate the ASA of the faux diocese.