When Rutgers University freshman Tyler Clementi killed himself after his roommate allegedly broadcast his sexual encounter with another man, the Rev. R. Albert Mohler wondered if anything could have prevented the 18-year-old’s suicide.
“Tyler could just have well been one of our own children,” said Mohler, a father of two and president of Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, who criticized the Christian treatment of gays on his blog.
“Christians have got to stop talking about people struggling with sexual issues as a tribe apart.”
Re: “Christians have got to stop talking about people struggling with sexual issues as a tribe apart.”
Amen, amen! We need to stop talking about others’ problems, period! Our culture feeds on it in superficial and unhealthy ways and our church is suffering for it. Apparently we can’t be reminded often enough.
I don’t recall a whole bunch of talk about the GLBT folks until [b]they[/b] started pushing their agenda to destroy marriage, infiltrate and control Churches, and indoctrinate our kids in public school. So what…do they just want us to shut up and go along with whatever their agenda is? Sorry, that isn’t going to happen.
By the way, how is it the fault of Christians that one student “outed” another and the outed kid committed suicide? Gee, I thought that the secular world was of the opinion that there is nothing wrong with folks being homosexual, so why is it a problem that the student was outed? Why would the student kill himself if he was just engaged in a normal lifestyle choice?
Sick and Tired of Nuance I agree with you . Any suicide is tragic and does show the need for all sinners to hear the Gospel. For I can think of no greater comfort than the Truth of Christ.
I think gays and their supporters have to find an outside “force” to blame. Otherwise they would be forced to examine how the gay lifestyle itself contributes to emotional and physical and spiritual death. Indeed the lifestyle when indulged in by heterosexuals is just as deadly.
But the one thing we are not permitted to be frank about in this society is why promiscuity, especially for gay men, is such a deadly choice. We are told that condoms will solve everything. That the problems arise because of the Church not approving their choice. They are wrong.
I know not all gays are promiscious but it would be wrong to ignore the influence attraction to non monogamous sex has on young males no matter their sexual persuasion. Falling into this temptation has serious consequences which blanket approval by Christians is not going to solve.
#2: I don’t know where the quote of Mohler came from; however, he is very orthodox – and bright – and understands grace. He has a wonderful article on this tragedy [url=http://www.albertmohler.com/2010/10/04/between-the-boy-and-the-bridge-a-haunting-question/]here[/url].
Thank you #4. I read the article you suggested. Yes, others, I know our church in the spirit of charity must address these issues along with all sin. It is, however, the social chatter of those who have done nothing but amuse themselves discussing the frailties of others that weary me. Should my particular besetting sin become the focus of world wide scrutiny and debate on this scale, I can only imagine my humiliation. Think of all the good silent ones who have struggled with this before
deciding to wax eloquent with ones own prideful expertise.
But homosexuals are a tribe apart. Like the Amerinds, they have made their way of life a function of being a tribe apart. There is no crime in this, of course. And of course, bullying is a bad business, irrespective of any connection to homosexuality. But homosexuals are severely handicapped, obviously, and like any other markedly handicapped group, they form a community of their own – if community is the right word. Nor is there any crime in this. But maintaining that homosexuals are “no different than you and I,” now the common mantra, is simply false. The liberal world has sold this mantra as objective truth, using the irrational argument that the word “normal” doesn’t mean anything or that homosexuality is not abnormal. Clearly both positions are false, but this has not hindered the homophile organizations from selling their bill of goods, with amazing success, to the rest of the US.
But I must add that if CBH thinks that humans will avoid discussing the frailties of others, as he (she) might hope that jokes will no longer center on such “frailties” he (she) is kidding himself.
This is like saying that no one should be judgmental because of the woman taken in adultery. The world cannot function without being judgmental, quite literally, and to suppose mankind is going to give up this necessity, is utterly unrealistic. And gossip and social chatter are an inevitable consequence of this necessity. Deplore it if you will, but change it you will not. Larry