If you go to the link toward the end of this sentence and enter “Indianapolis” as the name of the diocese and then go to “Church” (the third possible entry line) and enter “Saint Paul’s, Jeffersonville” underneath the entry point (where you will see a list of parishes alphabetically in the Indianapolis diocese) then you can see in pictorial form some of the data from 1999-2009.
You may find the parish website there.
When will the 2010 figures be added?
At the end of the homepage on the parish website, I wonder what the story is behind changing the Hookerian formula to “reason, scripture and tradition”?
The statistics show a big drop in ASA earlier than the usual 2003. In this case it was in 2001. I wonder what was going on then.
The new pastor in charge blogged about Jesus flip/flopping:
[blockquote] “In this passage Jesus is accosted by a Canaanite woman who asked healing for her daughter. Jesus at first refuses her request. But she persists and as a result of their conversation Jesus changes his mind. Jesus learns from her and ends up agreeing to her request.
The Gospel, it seems to me, supports open relationships where people listen to one another and allow themselves to be affected and changed by the concerns and views of another” [/blockquote]
I find that troublesome, and I shall pray for this parish.
Hey undergroundpewster, that is some funny and scary stuff you found there!
Of course that is how it happened, Jesus was like, no, not today lady. (few minutes later) I see your point lady, you have convinced me, your will be done!
I am so glad that some clergy have had the revelation that Christ came to earth to be taught….not to teach.
That intpretation of the story is an expression of the “progressives” fondest hope: with persistence, they can even teach God something new, and he will get on board with them.
Jeffersonville grew from 2000 to 2010 by about 65 percent. For St Paul, Members declined from 140 to 115, ASA declined from 100 to 60, and Plate & Pledge was flat at $80K which, in inflation adjusted dollars, declined by about 20 percent. TEC data indicate that a parish with ASA of 60 has about a 2 to 3 percent chance of growing Plate & Pledge to $150K. I suspect that this is a parish with very few young members. Rev and Mrs Hill have quite a challenge. Statmann
From the Reverend’s bio:
“He has training in Appreciative Inquiry Leadership….”
You can’t make this stuff up. I’m going to go throw up.
It is sad to see this as so many things about TEC. I was actually baptized in this parish as an infant. My father worked in Louisville for awhile. That was back when we had the 1928 BCP. I don’t remember my baptism, but I remember some early years there and some wonderful people in my life.
From their website:
[blockquote] * We welcome men and women, married or celibate, to be ordained as bishops, priests, and deacons.
* We believe in amendment of life, the forgiveness of sin, and life everlasting.
* Lay people exercise a vital role in the governance and ministry of our Church.
* Holy Communion may be received by all baptized Christians, not only members of the Episcopal Church.
* We uphold the Bible and worship with the Book of Common Prayer.
* We affirm that committed relationships are lifelong and monogamous.
* Episcopalians also recognize that there is grace after divorce and do not deny the sacraments to those who have been divorced.
* We affirm that issues such as birth control are matters of personal informed conscience.
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With Capt. Deacon Warren, I think we all grieve the passing of our former home.
robroy is right to point out the solidity of the inner pages of the website, which also include:
What We Believe:
The center of Episcopal teaching is the life and resurrection of Jesus Christ. The basic teachings of the church, or catechism, include:
Jesus Christ is fully human and fully God. He died and was resurrected from the dead.
Jesus provides the way of eternal life for those who believe.
God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ), and God the Holy Spirit, are one God, and are called the Holy Trinity, “Three and yet one”
The Old and New Testaments of the Bible were written by people “under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.” The Apocrypha are additional books that are used in Christian worship, but not for the formation of doctrine.
The two great and necessary sacraments are Holy Baptism and Holy Eucharist.
Other sacramental rites are confirmation, ordination, marriage, reconciliation of a penitent, and unction.
Belief in heaven, hell, and Jesus’ return in glory.
Emphasis on living out the Greatest Commandmentto love God and neighbor fully, as found in the Gospel of Matthew 22:36-40
I repent of my total rush to judgment.