(ENS) Virginia Episcopal churches face uninsured quake losses

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11 comments on “(ENS) Virginia Episcopal churches face uninsured quake losses

  1. AnglicanFirst says:

    Since the revisionists, in a very real sense, have deconsecrated the Washington Cathedral and some other Episcopal church structures through heretical practices and acts of secular political activity, why should anyone other than a revisionist or a champion of historic building preservation want to contribute money toward rebuilding/repairing revisionist edifices?

    That money can and will be spent by traditional/orthodox Anglicans for purchasing/building church strucures for evicted traditional/orthodox congregations and for church plantings.

  2. C. Wingate says:

    Tell me, exactly when was this deconsecration service performed? Can you show me a bulletin for it, that I may verify for myself that it followed the rite prescribed in the BoOS?

    I bought the cathedral a stone back when I was young and I had hope for the church, and I saw the last stone set in place and the building consecrated the following day. The malice I have seen here over the last few days is terribly disheartening, and it leaves me in a certain despair. Why would I want to have anything to do with the separatist traditionalists, when they are so nasty?

  3. AnglicanFirst says:

    Reply to comment #2.

    My wife was baptized at the Washington Cathedral and is terribly saddened by the actions of those leading the Diocese of Washington, DC. To visit it would be like visiting the Temple of Zion while heretical Hebrew kings permitted pagan practices in the temple and denied the Law.

    Neither of us wish to visit the cathedral again. To do so might seem to give our seal of approval to the revisionists who now ‘rule’ in the Diocese of Washington, DC.

    My mother-in-law and her aunts were contributors to the cathedral. They would not be today if they were alive.

    To answer your question regarding deconsecration. You seem to be taking a canonical approach to the concept of consecration and deconsecration. The canonical approach is an invention of mortal minds.

    My comment was made in the spiritual sense of the two words, consecration and deconsecration. And as I see it, the revisionists have made their decisions based upon mortal interptretation and wisdom and have denied “…the Faith once given…” in their search of fulfillment of their heretical mortal needs.

  4. priestwalter says:

    #2 I found the real nastiness is actually within TEC. You know, lawsuits, deposing clergy and such.

  5. Sarah says:

    RE: “Why would I want to have anything to do with the separatist traditionalists, when they are so nasty?”

    Not certain whom you’ve naming “separatist traditionalists” — I’m a traditionalist but am a happy member of TEC.

    And certainly no one in TEC who believes the Gospel should want to support the repair of buildings which are in revisionist hands. Those revisionists ape the manner of Christians with their buildings, lure in the unsuspecting pagans who are in search of real bread, and then give them stones, all the while proclaiming this is the Christian Gospel.

    One of the most important things that Christians in TEC can do is cease propping up with money the structures that are held by the revisionists. This includes diocesan structures, seminaries held by revisionists [which are blessedly dying on the vine], and various other entities.

    Allowing the revisionists to experience the consequences of their failed and withered theology without enabling those structures to survive is a big deal for many Christians within TEC. I hope that every year, TEC and various dioceses within TEC receive less and less money from Christian members of it. So far, this is happily coming true for my own diocese and various others as well.

  6. pendennis88 says:

    #2 – I’ve no particular animus towards the building. To the extent that the orthodox don’t think it is particularly good stewardship to repair it, well, that is fine and if you disagree, that is fine and you are free to give your money towards it. (I presume the Soper trust can handle the repairs just fine, though.) This malice you refer to is unclear – perhaps you could identify it. Do you mean the suit by the Diocese to close the homeless shelter at the Central Union Mission, perhaps? And as to separatism, it is, after all, the ACNA that is actually in communion with the vast majority of Anglicans worldwide, while TEC is in communion only with the UK and a handful of others. So I think the separatist label is misdirected.

  7. Cennydd13 says:

    C. Wingate, may I suggest that you take a long and seriously thorough look at what the Episcopal Church has done with regard to its treatment of those who openly disagree with what they have done during the past forty years? I remind you that those of us who felt it necessary to leave TEC and yet remain faithfully Anglican Christian [b](YES, ONE CAN DO THAT!)[/b] would never have done so without good and compelling reasons. Those reasons are a matter of public record; all you have to do is look in the right places.

  8. Cennydd13 says:

    And I do sympathize with the people of all churches who have been affected by this quake……and now its first (of many) aftershock, and this includes TEC parishes.

  9. Clueless says:

    “Neither of us wish to visit the cathedral again. To do so might seem to give our seal of approval to the revisionists who now ‘rule’ in the Diocese of Washington, DC. ”

    EXACTLY. I grew up at the Cathedral, as did my sister and brother. My kids were baptised at the Cathedral. I was married at St. Albans chapel on the Cathedral grounds. I learned to ring changes in the bell tower. I did book binding in the library. I played hide and seek in what we called the “grave yard” where all the stones that eventually were lifted into place were kept until ready. I know all the secret ins and outs, how to duck away from chapel by slipping out the choir door.

    I played hooky from Frieday services by hiding out in the Bethleham chapel where we played chess or poker until it was over.

    There is a difference between malice, and grief. I bear to malice toward the Cathedral. I loved her, and love her still. But I will never go back. I CAN never go back.

  10. Clueless says:

    That would be “bear NO malice” (obviously)

  11. Choir Stall says:

    The national cathedral will fare rather well following the recent earthquake damage. All the dean has to do is pass the collection plate among all of the gay bars in D.C., stand down on DuPont Circle, etc., and voila, the funds will come rolling in. The old conservative and traditionalist support base that built the cathedral and paid it off has evaporated, so now the DC diocesan base has to move on. After all, the gay community is very supportive of the cathedral and the Christian faith and can be relied on to step up in this time of need. Watch as the gay cruises, fine designer clothes, fancy drinks, and the other trappings of DC’s gaydom will be changed like water into wine; self into repair funds. Really, watch for it. (Sarcasm off).