[Archbp Fred] Hiltz also met with Nigel Stock, the bishop at Lambeth, about when and what the next primates’ meeting would look like. Hiltz said that although Welby had invited all primates to indicate support for a meeting, it was unlikely that there would be one before the end of 2015. The primates last met in 2011.
Hiltz also expressed hope that the next primates’ meeting would not be dominated by a single issue. “If we’re going to have a primates’ meeting, we need not ignore the same-sex marriage stuff, but we ought not to allow it to dominate,” he said. “The Archbishop himself said he wants to focus on prayer, evangelism and reconciliation.”
Another significant point of conversation was around the possibility of an Anglican Congress. “I think an Anglican Congress would be a great thing,” said Hiltz. “A Congress that was focussed around the church in and for the world could make for some very interesting conversations.” Although such a Congress would take some time to plan, Hiltz was optimistic about the effects it could have. He noted that the Anglican Consultative Council would have to be the driving force behind it. “It would take a lot of careful planning,” he said, “but I think it is time.” The last Anglican Congress was held in Toronto in 1963.
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Oh goody. The ACC will be in charge of reconciliation “conversations”. Whenever anybody in Anglican hierarchy says “conversation” I cringe and bite my lips to keep from screaming.
[blockquote]Hiltz also expressed hope that the next primates’ meeting would not be dominated by a single issue. “If we’re going to have a primates’ meeting, we need not ignore the same-sex marriage stuff, but we ought not to allow it to dominate,†he said. “The Archbishop himself said he wants to focus on prayer, evangelism and reconciliation.â€[/blockquote]
Wonderful, but if we can’t sort out what is clearly according to St Paul a symptom of a disordered creation, how can we ever really hope to deal with what some would see as weightier matters? The same-sex marriage stuff affects how we approach anything else.
Let’s have a real Anglican Congress with representation based on attendance. Figure 1 representative per every 100,000 ASA. And then let them legislate.
But let’s face it, the point will be to give 2/3 of the places in the congress to heretic westerners, in hopes of co-opting the few GS representatives and demonstrating “unity,” while adopting the progressive ideology of TEC, ACoC and CoE.
What, another worthless “Congress”? Who remembers the “Mutual Responsibility and Interdependence in the Body of Christ†(MRI) that came out of Toronto in 1963? That sure helped things didn’t it.
It appears that ++Hiltz desperately craves some sort of international fellowship and recognition – and by that he means more than just his liberal fellow-travellers in CofE, TEC, ACA etc.
So much for the bravado of many western liberals who proclaim that they don’t need the Communion and will happily walk away from it if they are disciplined.
“Hiltz also expressed hope that the next primates’ meeting would not be dominated by a single issue”
As others rightly point out, it is people like ++Hiltz, Katie Schori and the ABC who cause meetings to be dominated by a single issue. The majority of provinces in the Anglican Communion have declared themselves to be in impaired communion with TEC and ACoC, largely because of those provinces’ promotion of those in sinful relationships into the episcopate. Just in the last couple of months we have seen this reiterated in the Province of South East Asia which ordered a deputation from TEC not to attend one of its consecration services and invited an ACNA bishop to attend instead, just to reinforce the point. In other words, the views of the vast majority of Anglicans the world over that TEC and ACoC need to repent have not changed.
The ball is in TEC’s and ACoC’s court – renounce your sinful behaviour and the issue will indeed cease to dominate meetings. Its really simple.
[blockquote] “I gave [++Welby] an update in terms of where the commission was at this particular moment, and that was as much as I could do. I think he appreciated that.†The commission is looking at a proposed change to Canon XXI to allow for same-sex marriage.
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Hiltz also met with officers at the Anglican Communion Office and at Lambeth Palace, and noted that the question of the marriage canon came up more than once. “There’s a bit of anxiety in the Communion about what might happen here and the fallout that might come from that.†[/blockquote]
And nothing at all in this to indicate that either the ABC or his staff have any moral or doctrinal problem with the promotion of same sex “marriage” in the church. They are concerned about the effect that the Canadian Church’s open endorsement of it may have on the Communion as a whole, but they do not themselves express any concern about the morality of it, or the theology behind it.
This speaks volumes about the real attitude of Archbishop Welby, and whether he actually is an “evangelical” in any sense that most evangelical Anglicans would recognise.
An Anglican Congress? We’ve had the Lambeth Commission, the Windsor Continuation Group, the Covenant Design Group, the Anglican Consultative Council, the primates, the Lambeth Conference, the Standing Committee of the Anglican Communion, the Anglican Communion Legal Advisors Network, the Anglican Communion Office, and Lambeth Palace, not to mention countless committees.
In 2010, President Bishop Mouneer Anis came to the “sad realization that there is no desire within the ACC and the SCAC to follow through on the recommendations that have been taken by the other Instruments of Communion to sort out the problems which face the Anglican Communion and which are tearing its fabric apart,†and resigned from the Standing Committee.
Nothing has changed.
Add the Panel of Reference to the list above.